Mafiascum.net

I am rigorously thought about the pros and cons of lynching at random during this phase.

To some degree we don't want to confirm someone we think is town as town? They get a jacked role pm but will just end up being shot which results in us losing a strong town read and the entire benefit of this vote.
People can get upgraded role pms through other means so that player can still get a Jacked role pm need be.


I think this entire day phase should consist of us just voting mid reads. If we flip scum on this phase then we should probably lynch scum a 2nd time.

In post 22, Servant Lancer wrote:Stop claiming.

No?

This is an objectively correct play to make. When I become confirmed town, I'll die soon enough anyway, I'm not claiming the rest of my role, and this part of my role cannot be stopped.

It's literally free.

I don't know anything about FGO, but there's a comprehensive wiki and I imagine at least a few of us actually do.
The more you claim about your role the easier it is for scum to figure out who's who.
The most important thing is giving the master to town and not scum, not for everyone to start comparing their roles to each other to try and figure out who has the strongest one.

Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.

Interesting.

Cool, I’m town. There.
Vote me.

In post 25, Servant Foreigner wrote:I am rigorously thought about the pros and cons of lynching at random during this phase.

To some degree we don't want to confirm someone we think is town as town? They get a jacked role pm but will just end up being shot which results in us losing a strong town read and the entire benefit of this vote.
People can get upgraded role pms through other means so that player can still get a Jacked role pm need be.


I think this entire day phase should consist of us just voting mid reads. If we flip scum on this phase then we should probably lynch scum a 2nd time.

Or you can literally just hand it to the player who is claiming what their upgrade does.

Honestly, like.

In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.

It's literally written in my role PM.

Is it not in yours?!

In post 32, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.

It's literally written in my role PM.

Is it not in yours?!

No?

Berserker did you see my post?

In post 34, Servant Avenger wrote:Berserker did you see my post?

The one where you claim you're town?

Or... did I miss one?

In post 33, Servant Foreigner wrote:

In post 32, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.

It's literally written in my role PM.

Is it not in yours?!

No?

Okay well mine is under my Noble Phantasm abilities. It literally says "when you gain Master...."

There’s a 60 post limit. So I’m talking about my last post on page 1.

There's a 60 limit.

You conveniently have the same ability.

After I claim mine.

Fine, vote me and I'll make you Master Day 1. Mine is a day phase thing. So we can test it.

Or is yours also conveniently a night ability too so we cannot prove it?

In post 16, Servant Alter Ego wrote:I think part of the decision process for figuring out who should get the master upgrade needs to be: what is their master upgrade? How useful is it? How risky to use?

In that spirit, I offer: My master upgrade would allow me to give two other players their own master upgrades. The upgrade would not include revealing their alignment. Usefulness and risk would depend on my townreading skills and luck.

In post 17, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 14, Servant Foreigner wrote:Winning this vote is not the only way to obtain a master.

My role makes it so I want day 2 to start with all 4 scum alive.
So I would rather vote a null read in the actual voting phase then a scum read.

I just want to clarify this so I don't have to try and explain why I am not casing my scum reads down the line.

I agree it's not the only way to obtain master.

When I'm made Master, I can activate other people's Master.

My role does extremely well with confirmed town status, and I'll get to activate two or more people I have strong town reads on before the scum are forced to kill me.

hate 2 break it 2 u but this is probably in everyone's role (it is in mine also)

berserker's confidence here is probtown tho

I misspoke.
Anyway, if you hadn’t noticed berserker, both I and alter ego are claiming the same thing, that we can activate two other player’s abilities (day 1 and 2.)

In post 41, Servant Assassin wrote:

In post 16, Servant Alter Ego wrote:I think part of the decision process for figuring out who should get the master upgrade needs to be: what is their master upgrade? How useful is it? How risky to use?

In that spirit, I offer: My master upgrade would allow me to give two other players their own master upgrades. The upgrade would not include revealing their alignment. Usefulness and risk would depend on my townreading skills and luck.

In post 17, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 14, Servant Foreigner wrote:Winning this vote is not the only way to obtain a master.

My role makes it so I want day 2 to start with all 4 scum alive.
So I would rather vote a null read in the actual voting phase then a scum read.

I just want to clarify this so I don't have to try and explain why I am not casing my scum reads down the line.

I agree it's not the only way to obtain master.

When I'm made Master, I can activate other people's Master.

My role does extremely well with confirmed town status, and I'll get to activate two or more people I have strong town reads on before the scum are forced to kill me.

hate 2 break it 2 u but this is probably in everyone's role (it is in mine also)

berserker's confidence here is probtown tho

Okay, this many people claiming it means it is absolutely a mechanic and not a special power.

Which makes buddy who has "what do you mean when you become master" a very suspicious person.

Oh I read my role pm wrong.
My with a master ability allows me to give another player a master as a day action.
I am not sure how I missed that text, thanks for getting me to check my noble phantasm.

So to some degree I am objectively the best choice beyond correct strategy of choosing a null read 40 pages from now.
Otherwise we should target a null read as whoever gets chosen will die night one.

I assume this phase is not the same as the literal day 1 elimination phase so I will liberally use our 60 pages.

VOTE: Servant Foreigner

In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.

In post 32, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.

It's literally written in my role PM.

Is it not in yours?!

In post 33, Servant Foreigner wrote:

In post 32, Servant Berserker wrote:

In post 28, Servant Foreigner wrote:Berserker how do you know your master upgrade?
I didn't think that was info made available to you.

It's literally written in my role PM.

Is it not in yours?!

No?

Like this is way more suspicious with us finding out 4+ people confirmed this is text in the Role PM.

In post 44, Servant Foreigner wrote:Oh I read my role pm wrong.
My with a master ability allows me to give another player a master as a day action.
I am not sure how I missed that text, thanks for getting me to check my noble phantasm.

So to some degree I am objectively the best choice beyond correct strategy of choosing a null read 40 pages from now.
Otherwise we should target a null read as whoever gets chosen will die night one.

I assume this phase is not the same as the literal day 1 elimination phase so I will liberally use our 60 pages.

VOTE: Servant Foreigner

This is our first murder vote, yes?

I thought I could give people a master without winning this vote myself.
So I just intended to stay back and not worry about it.

Basically voting me is whatever your role is and the additional effect of my ability.

Yes, and now I’m not scummy for claiming it after you.

In post 48, Servant Avenger wrote:Yes, and now I’m not scummy for claiming it after you.

No I agree, you're fine.

Two is a weirdness.

Four+ is "okay this is a mechanic"