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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:39 pm
by Tammy
In post 22, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Good evening, everyone. I have nothing as of yet to add.
Oh that's cool. I wasn't like you've got to do this or anything. I just figured there was a chance you'd already gone research heavy, so figured I'd ask.

I have midterm grades due on Saturday, so I can't really look into that soon. I also don't intend to do heavy research either. This game is partly a test to see if I can play mafia without getting to invested and not completely other things. Last couple games I've played have worked out well in that regard, so hopefully that will continue here too!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:40 pm
by Tammy
I don't remember quoting Jake, weird.

That previous post is to ffery.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:41 pm
by fferyllt
In post 24, Syryana wrote:I actually asked FakeGod about the traitor when I got my role PM; he told me I don't know if the traitor follows the normal ruleset as given by that link on the wiki. I do worry about the traitor having a talk connection to the mafia, but there's little we can do about it if they do. That's why I requested we wait on outing the dethy immediately; once we turn that corner we can't go back. If ya'll think that's the thing to do then I'm okay with it I just wanted to be sure it was the thing we wanted to do before burning that bridge.

Personally I think we can sort the dethy (there's plenty of analysis around it on the wiki) and at the very least we can figure out who the traitorous bastard among us is and wind up with 4 ICs.
How long will that take? And what are the chances all 5 of us survive long enough to figure out which of our reads are reliable?

I'm ok with keeping it quiet for now.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:44 pm
by Syryana
Well if we figure out who the traitor is 2 days, 1 for IC only fuck the copperino

Hell if us girls are all town 2 days, we just cop the other two and share results

It's gonna take some work though, not sure how long we got until we start getting picked off esp if the traitor has daytalk

You thinkin we should out it and go for normal day play?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:51 pm
by Syryana
Ahem, somewhat overexcited.

I think it's possible to sort the cops out if we get two sets of results. At the very least we'll narrow it down to naive/paranoid. It's entirely possible we don't get that long to fuck around with it, and it sounds like you know more about dethys than I can be bothered to research right now anyways. Whatchu think?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:59 pm
by Tammy
Yeah I thought of doing something like that, and then I was like oh we'll narrow it down by night kills so we'd be able to narrow it down once we get more than one alignment flipped. And I started to fall asleep with the knowledge that I was a genius and had everything figured out.

Until five minutes later when I realized that we have to actually investigate the people first and that's wholly dependent on if we investigated the people who flip.

And then I went to sleep with the knowledge that no, I'm not a genius.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:00 pm
by fferyllt
In post 29, Syryana wrote:Ahem, somewhat overexcited.

I think it's possible to sort the cops out if we get two sets of results. At the very least we'll narrow it down to naive/paranoid. It's entirely possible we don't get that long to fuck around with it, and it sounds like you know more about dethys than I can be bothered to research right now anyways. Whatchu think?
Just what I remember from Death's Diner, and they had to do some of their work out in the open with scum and everybody looking over their shoulders.

I guess my thoughts are that as long as we can be productive in here and not implode the way that game worked out, then let's do our thing. If it gets messy in here or if our neighborhood gets messy out in the thread, then I'll personally blow this shindig wide open and get the help of the rest of town in figuring this shit out.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:03 pm
by Syryana
We love you anyways Tammy. Whaddaya think about midwaybear? He seems to be tryharding wayyyyy too fast. Surely Servant Archer isn't scum again?
fferyllt wrote:I guess my thoughts are that as long as we can be productive in here and not implode the way that game worked out, then let's do our thing. If it gets messy in here or if our neighborhood gets messy out in the thread, then I'll personally blow this shindig wide open and get the help of the rest of town in figuring this shit out.
Ya you remember DD a lot better than I do; all I remember is us shooting mastina and getting into the world's longest fight with Titus.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:11 pm
by fferyllt
You remember Bro reaching out to you because he thought you'd get the reference to a game you two had played?

That's when we waded in and started stomping people who were running him up.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:19 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
hello all! i think its better to out the dethy - its probably not worthwhile for scum to shoot in here since the odds of hitting a sane cop are 1/5 and the odds of hitting a fellow scum are 1/5. itll give everyone else a lot more info to go on and will significantly reduce the size of the lunchbox.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:24 pm
by Syryana
In post 33, fferyllt wrote:You remember Bro reaching out to you because he thought you'd get the reference to a game you two had played?

That's when we waded in and started stomping people who were running him up.
Truthfully? No.
Tayl0r Swift wrote:hello all! i think its better to out the dethy - its probably not worthwhile for scum to shoot in here since the odds of hitting a sane cop are 1/5 and the odds of hitting a fellow scum are 1/5. itll give everyone else a lot more info to go on and will significantly reduce the size of the lunchbox.
You think scum won't try to kill/fuck with cops? Also traditional dethys are 4 cops 1 goon; if we out the dethy and the traitor doesn't have daytalk then we're wasting a valuable opportunity.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:26 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 35, Syryana wrote:
In post 33, fferyllt wrote:You remember Bro reaching out to you because he thought you'd get the reference to a game you two had played?

That's when we waded in and started stomping people who were running him up.
Truthfully? No.
Tayl0r Swift wrote:hello all! i think its better to out the dethy - its probably not worthwhile for scum to shoot in here since the odds of hitting a sane cop are 1/5 and the odds of hitting a fellow scum are 1/5. itll give everyone else a lot more info to go on and will significantly reduce the size of the lunchbox.
You think scum won't try to kill/fuck with cops? Also traditional dethys are 4 cops 1 goon; if we out the dethy and the traitor doesn't have daytalk then we're wasting a valuable opportunity.
i mean i think the odds of hitting PR are no higher inside the dethy than outside. what exactly is the opportunity?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:27 pm
by fferyllt
In post 35, Syryana wrote:
In post 33, fferyllt wrote:You remember Bro reaching out to you because he thought you'd get the reference to a game you two had played?

That's when we waded in and started stomping people who were running him up.
Truthfully? No.
Maybe I am an infomancer.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:29 pm
by Syryana
If the traitor doesn't have daytalk, scum doesn't know about the dethy. If scum doesn't know about the dethy, we can work unmolested. And far better odds we figure out who's town in a 4:1 than a 1x:x.

Nice crumb, by the way. You scum?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:30 pm
by Syryana
@ffery, yeah yeah we know yer the daggum infomancer. Your memory never ceases to astound me.

The prior post was @Taylor btw

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:36 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 38, Syryana wrote:If the traitor doesn't have daytalk, scum doesn't know about the dethy. If scum doesn't know about the dethy, we can work unmolested. And far better odds we figure out who's town in a 4:1 than a 1x:x.

Nice crumb, by the way. You scum?
yes that crumb that quoted one of us and was set up so that everyone in this PT would notice it but others might not definitely was me reaching out to my scumbuddies.

Spoiler:
actually it was just me joining the existing crumb

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:38 pm
by fferyllt
Mine?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:39 pm
by Syryana
My question is, Taylor, why did you feel the need to bring that up and further crumb? I know why ffery did it. I don't know why you did it, and I particularly don't know why you felt the need to throw the traitor bit in there, especially after we'd agreed (three of us have, anyways) that bringing up the dethy aint a thing we wanna do yet.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:43 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 42, Syryana wrote:My question is, Taylor, why did you feel the need to bring that up and further crumb? I know why ffery did it. I don't know why you did it, and I particularly don't know why you felt the need to throw the traitor bit in there, especially after we'd agreed (three of us have, anyways) that bringing up the dethy aint a thing we wanna do yet.
it doesnt reveal the dethy at all, and when i saw the crumb i assumed we should all crumb. i kinda feel like revealing the dethy is a better play here, but ill defer to you all since im new. i think the risk is low and the info revealed is small but the reward is very high.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:47 pm
by Syryana
In post 43, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 42, Syryana wrote:My question is, Taylor, why did you feel the need to bring that up and further crumb? I know why ffery did it. I don't know why you did it, and I particularly don't know why you felt the need to throw the traitor bit in there, especially after we'd agreed (three of us have, anyways) that bringing up the dethy aint a thing we wanna do yet.
it doesnt reveal the dethy at all, and when i saw the crumb i assumed we should all crumb. i kinda feel like revealing the dethy is a better play here, but ill defer to you all since im new. i think the risk is low and the info revealed is small but the reward is very high.
It does if you're clever, and ffery beat Cabd over the head with it. He ain't stupid most days. And what bothers me about your crumb is the traitor bit. Why did you crumb the traitor specifically? What's the very high reward?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:49 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 44, Syryana wrote:
In post 43, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 42, Syryana wrote:My question is, Taylor, why did you feel the need to bring that up and further crumb? I know why ffery did it. I don't know why you did it, and I particularly don't know why you felt the need to throw the traitor bit in there, especially after we'd agreed (three of us have, anyways) that bringing up the dethy aint a thing we wanna do yet.
it doesnt reveal the dethy at all, and when i saw the crumb i assumed we should all crumb. i kinda feel like revealing the dethy is a better play here, but ill defer to you all since im new. i think the risk is low and the info revealed is small but the reward is very high.
It does if you're clever, and ffery beat Cabd over the head with it. He ain't stupid most days. And what bothers me about your crumb is the traitor bit. Why did you crumb the traitor specifically? What's the very high reward?
completely removing 5 people from todays lunchbox and then having an almost guaranteed lunch day 3 or 4, after which you have 4 ICs. if i overplayed im sorry, i didnt realize it would be so obvious to cabd?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:52 pm
by Syryana
Sigh. Ffery, was I ever this shiny and new?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:53 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
now youre beat up and old!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:53 pm
by fferyllt
In post 46, Syryana wrote:Sigh. Ffery, was I ever this shiny and new?
Nah we were born cynical.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:53 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
(that was a crumb that im a goon and im gonna beat you up)