Mafiascum.net

I gave two options that I would be willing to approve of either. The thing about plain 2-Shot is that's almost as effective as an ungated vanilla cop. It's not quite the same, but being able to do the N3 investigation probably won't make a significant difference as the N1 and N2 investigations would. I expect mass claim to probably happen around Day 3 or 4 as that's pretty standard from what I've seen in mini normals.

I think you can also drop the compulsive requirement on the cop--town will almost always use it anyway. Holstering on using it doesn't really benefit town much.

As far as role pms go:

1) You need result pms for the Vanilla Cop, Cop, and Tracker. You don't have to include them in the role pms, but we do need to see them.
2) Compulsive isn't random in normal games. Please check the normal guidelines section of compulsive (on the wiki) if you still plan to use it.
3) Miller role pm is missing description of macho.
4) Typo: Miller role pm: "If will appear as a member of the Mafia to a Cop." --> If should be you
5) Roleblocker pm should probably say active ability rather than just ability for clarity for newer players.
6) Town role pms should likely have the win conditions listed, especially since the mafia ones do.
7) Nitpick: Most of your role pms use language that imply a player's action will always succeed. You may want to change it to use something like "may attempt to" or "assuming no interference" to clarify that it is possible to be blocked.

I think you're missing that JacksonVirgo made it a compulsive novice 2 shot cop because we told them a N2N3 cop would be good, and a Compulsive Novice 2-shot cop is almost equivalent. It's not equivalent though, there's a subtle distinction that a night specific power role can decline to act, in spite of having fewer opportunities to act. Night Specific specifying a range of nights is normal and is what I think is the best fit here. The pitfall with novice compulsive is that it implies the town tracker is perhaps scum tracker, and the mod designing the setup wanted to ensure scum were able to get rewarded for locating the cop early. The pitfall with novice 2-shot is that if the cop makes an accurate assessment they are very likely to survive through night 4, they could holster Night 3 but then get punished when the Miller Enabler they knew nothing about gets killed. It's a very risky and unlikely call to make anyway that would be pretty rarely seen, so novice 2 shot is definitely better than novice 2 shot compulsive, but I like the straight night specific best.

The mafia role PMs let you confirm for the game without learning your partners, which is in the family of banned Quagmire stratz

Actually maybe you should think about designing that into your tool? Like the membership of the scumteam is a piece of information you could set one time, then the mafia role PMs could automatically print the list, excluding the member receiving the PM. It's something to automate.

In post 26, Ircher wrote:6) Town role pms should likely have the win conditions listed, especially since the mafia ones do.

I've fixed up the other points but what does this mean exactly?

In post 29, Isis wrote:Actually maybe you should think about designing that into your tool? Like the membership of the scumteam is a piece of information you could set one time, then the mafia role PMs could automatically print the list, excluding the member receiving the PM. It's something to automate.

Honestly never thought of it but I will definitely add that.

In post 30, JacksonVirgo wrote:

In post 26, Ircher wrote:6) Town role pms should likely have the win conditions listed, especially since the mafia ones do.

I've fixed up the other points but what does this mean exactly?

Seems I missed the town win conditions being listed when I first looked, so you can disregard this point.

(Also, technically speaking, for both mafia and town, there's the additional requirement that one player of the faction must still be alive, but that's not a huge issue in a mini normal.)

If you repost everything, I can do a final look, and we should be good to go from there.

That should be everything needed? Also if there's discrepencies with the role cards I apologize, I've found a few kinks in my tool that I'm going to be sorting out ASAP ahaha

Ah feck, I forgot the game and PT links

Oh and the Novice 2-shot. Gonna redo

The novice 2-Shot Vanilla Cop is missing the information that they cannot use their ability night 1.
You also forgot to add the novice modifier in the other mafia role pms when listing teammates.

Everything else looks good. It should suffice to repost the novice 2-shot vanilla cop role pm.

It has been brought to my attention something that I am sure isn't a thing but I have to ask anyway. Cop-Enabler doesn't affect Vanilla Cop yes?

It shouldn't. A Vanilla Cop Enabler would, but that wouldn't affect normal cops; it's specifically tied to the precise role name.

Looks good to me.
/pass

Hype!