Newbie 2051: Lair of the Skrímsli

[Spartan117]

Are you around?

[Prism]

Looks like I was wrong on Enchant! I'll take the free elim, though. I think the conversation Salsabil quoted points more towards them not having one-Esoteric could ask in the PT if it was just to flow trap-but I've already missed once and PR hunting was never my strongsuit anyway.

I don't think there's too much more to be done today; Enchant claiming scum is just a free elim. I don't really know if there's a good defense of him that comes off looking town, but you can try it if you want. I think our opposing positions on safebet/esoteric are a fun dynamic.

[Prism]

What are you thinking, and is there anything you need help with or think I can do to put us in a better position?

[Spartan117]

I'm trying to hold the town read on safebet/quiet and enchant, going to give more information with a fresh head tomorrow when i get time, hoping the town read of enchant with him flipping town gives me a bit of townie cred, but then they could see through that with scum obv knowing whos gonna flip town or not

[Spartan117]

would you be around at some point today for a catch up and plan ahead like with a enchant day lynch looking likely who do you want to night kill and do you think i should still try and distance myself from the enchant wagon given how sus he looks, do you think it will look blatant scum trying to gown townie cred pre flip which i know which way it will go

[Prism]

I probably won't be around later today. I think you're doing fine and should take whatever road you think is natural for you. It's hard for me to give more specific advice here; I don't know what an Enchant defense of the last few pages would look like.

I'd say to just stay confident. You're playing well, so don't be afraid to push one way or another. I think we're both town enough that we can prioritize maintaining that status over pushing specific eliminations.

[Prism]

Just saw your last post. Very strong, you didn't even need the advice!

[Spartan117]

I feel like enchants defence attorney ahaha

[Spartan117]

provided we get to a day 1 lynch of Enchant, i think there is more than enough evidence for me to formulate a push on Sal Day 2 with the worries about getting voted etc. depending on how active people are day 2 I think a push on a Sal and Fredrick wagon is more than possible, currently struggling to get much of a scum read on anyone else atm, might try to plant some seeds of my doubt on quiet for a day 3 push idk.

We only need a lynch and nk day 1 and 2 and a lynch day 3 right?

[Prism]

I was having fun causing chaos with my unvote/revote but I think I had a little too much fun. We're still in good shape and all but verbally should just be waiting out the deadline timer, I think.

We need 3 miseliminations and two successful nightkills to win, yep.

[Spartan117]

I feel like my defence of enchant may be looked at for a white knight argument but ive just gotta fight it with conviction for what it is, who are your thoughts for the night kill?

[Prism]

I think we could shoot in your mason picks, either are solid shots. I don't really have a preference for which, but if I HAD to pick I'd lean shooting Esoteric just because flow trap is making it hard for others to play effectively.

Quiet is also easily the town MVP right now and we could put a stop to that very quickly if we wanted.

[Spartan117]

I think a mason pick would be my priority, I want to at least also think what information town will be getting from whoever we nk and if we can do so that implicates someone else and diverts from us as much as possible

[Spartan117]

At last Day 1 is over...

[Spartan117]

I think we could shoot in your mason picks, either are solid shots. I don't really have a preference for which, but if I HAD to pick I'd lean shooting Esoteric just because flow trap is making it hard for others to play effectively.

Quiet is also easily the town MVP right now and we could put a stop to that very quickly if we wanted.

I agree I think EZ and quiet are the two best picks for this NK atm, I think EZ was gonna push for fredrick with the mindset of enchant flipping scum, but as hes town he may reconsider so I think EZ would be the best nk target although quiet is reviewing going to review the me vs EZ thing which ill need to push as town vs town.

Flow trap - causing problems for town
Fredrick - sussed by most, i imagine may come out of his shell more D2
Sal - currently looks to be sussed by flow trap, defo possible for an alternative push based of their fear of looking scummy one of my potential planned pushes D2
Quiet - most townie looking, im going to try to pocket, could be good if you are able to push against them to keep that dynamic between us.
Floo - very quiet and posts very infrequent but very townie looking posts, my guess for solo PR if there isnt a mason duo.


Im prob gonna be reading players from townie to scum
Quiet - most townie
Floo
Flow Trap/Prism - null
Sal
Fredrick - most sus

Fredrick looking obv sus by not engaging with town, floo posts way less but provides meaningful posts, fredrick is obv push.

Sal im going to push like i said with fear of being scum read and going to push with pairing in mind with Sal/Flow Trap or Sal/Prism in mind.


As for now who would you rather goes through with the nk if there is no mason pairing there is either a cop or a jailkeeper, i dont know if it tells you if you are being held by the jailkeeper, or if its just like a role blocking thing and you find out after.

[Prism]

I think killing Quiet is objectively the best play-even if you're right about the masons, we can shoot Esoteric N2 instead, and it gives us so much more control over the game-but in a Newbie it's kind of in bad taste. I'm good with either if you have a preference. I can engineer a continued townread from Quiet but it'd take quite a bit of work, and I'm not sure I could do it without pushing you harder.

I think it might be best to put me either higher or lower. I want to get the clean sweep but we need to be prepared in case one of us gets flipped or investigated. I set up a few things for you on Day 1 that I'll try to collect/quote for you in the event I'm in danger. An idea for daystart might be to push or at least question me for my weird vote pattern before transitioning to Frederick later in the day-something explicit might be "How do people feel about Prism?" that looks like testing the waters/fishing for how viable it is.

We do not get advanced notice of a jailkeep, nor will we be told if we were jailkept or our NK target was. I feel like you should probably make the kill-both of us are unlikely to be jailkept by someone aiming for scum, but I think I'm more likely to be targeted if someone tries to use it protectively.

[Prism]

Eh, actually, I want to test something out on Quiet. I'm down to shoot Esoteric.

[Spartan117]

Ok I wish to perform the night kill on

esotericzoomer

[Spartan117]

Prism do you think it is at all sus or scummy to talk about who would have been a better nk target, i suppose it depends on depth and not to talk about thoughts on who would be PRs

[fferyllt]

Kill esotericzoomer acknowledged!

[Prism]

It depends on the players! Here I think you're unlikely to be punished for it, but I'd say to address it so far as it changes your perspective of the game.

I want the start of my day to be a bit weaker, I was way too town Day 1 and I need to rein it in a bit.

[Prism]

Some trivia for you: What's better than shooting a town mason? Shooting the town cop.

[Prism]

I think you could really leverage NK spec for yourself here actually.

flow trap I knew would love NK speculation and I suspect quiet will as well. Salsabil might not put much stock in it, but will mostly just ignore it. floo/FaC should oppose but won't be vocal enough to get the conversation somewhere productive.

[Spartan117]

I think you could really leverage NK spec for yourself here actually.

flow trap I knew would love NK speculation and I suspect quiet will as well. Salsabil might not put much stock in it, but will mostly just ignore it. floo/FaC should oppose but won't be vocal enough to get the conversation somewhere productive.

when you say leverage it do you mean in terms of using it to get a bit of a townlock as ez was someone i was against?

[Spartan117]

Eh, actually, I want to test something out on Quiet. I'm down to shoot Esoteric.

What are you going to test on quiet btw?