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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:15 am
by Nexus
Votecount 1.1:


Harumi Ayasato (2) -
eth0s, Krazy
Cantripmancer (1) -
Kazyan
eth0s (1) -
Harumi Ayasato
Krazy (1) -
Cantripmancer
Kazyan (1) -
Meuh
2ndchosen1 (1) -
ItalianoVD

Not voting (2) -
2ndchosen1, marcistar

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate. Day 1 will end at 11am GMT on the 20th February 2021 - (expired on 2021-02-20 11:00:00)

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:35 am
by Harumi Ayasato
In post 16, Krazy wrote:I googled her :P

Harumi Gif avatar version 1:
Spoiler:
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Harumi Static avatar version 1:
Spoiler:
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Harumi Static avatar version 2:
Spoiler:
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Any of those work for you?
I'll take Static 1. Will throw it up as soon as possible.
ace attorney best game

In post 21, Kazyan wrote:We're going to beat the Mafia with the power of friendship, aren't we. ._______.

All in favor of town PR claims being presented as transformation sequences when the time comes to do that?
In post 15, Krazy wrote:I also townread both of kazyan's posts so far.
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I have no objections to any of this.

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:52 am
by Krazy
So far I townlean the tones of Kazyan, Marcistar, Meuh, and Harumi
and faintly townlean Italiano

VOTE: 2ndchosen1

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:21 am
by marcistar
In post 24, Krazy wrote:beating the mafia with the power of friendship can be problematic (it can be hard to reevaluate people if you don't *want* to reevaluate them) but I still would rather have that then a highly toxic game, which can occur even in newbie queue.
we dont need to beat them with the power of friendship...
just whoever doesnt call me beautiful is scum ofc :roll:
In post 27, Krazy wrote:So far I townlean the tones of Kazyan, Marcistar, Meuh, and Harumi
what did i do to deserve this? :0 people usually call me scummy d1 :pensive:

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:31 am
by ItalianoVD
Just to let everyone know I townhunt before I scumhunt because I suck at finding scum, so don’t just automatically scumread me because of it. PoE is my friend and should be yours too. :)

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:31 am
by Krazy
I don't think a new player opens the game trying to pocket me by complimenting my pfp. Not a strong resd but good enough for page 2 lol

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:48 am
by marcistar
In post 29, ItalianoVD wrote:Just to let everyone know I townhunt before I scumhunt because I suck at finding scum, so don’t just automatically scumread me because of it. PoE is my friend and should be yours too. :)
i always forget :eek: whats a POE???
In post 30, Krazy wrote:I don't think a new player opens the game trying to pocket me by complimenting my pfp. Not a strong resd but good enough for page 2 lol
ahhh okai. iwish there was a thinking emoji on here :]
how long is the random vote phase thingy meant to last :( its so hard to make votes during it..

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:50 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 20, Krazy wrote:@Italiano, just for your own sanity I am also Happy Unbirthday Boon, so hello again!
Oh hey! Nice to see you again. I’m just gonna assume everyone is an alternate and that they’re capable of anything. :P

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:00 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 31, marcistar wrote:i always forget whats a POE???
Process of elimination.
In post 31, marcistar wrote:how long is the random vote phase thingy meant to last its so hard to make votes during it..
Until there’s something worth voting for. This can happen at anytime.

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:20 am
by Krazy
2nd time in 2 pages I've wanted to jokeclaim masons with marcistar, I think she is really town

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:22 am
by Meuh
In post 20, Krazy wrote:
@Meuh, this is a little oog but was rachelpie trying to in with you? The proximity of your ins made me think you were friends or something
Yeah, im irl friends with rachel, she told me something came up. not sure what but i hope she plays next game! <3

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In post 24, Krazy wrote:
beating the mafia with the power of friendship can be problematic (it can be hard to reevaluate people if you don't *want* to reevaluate them) but I still would rather have that then a highly toxic game, which can occur even in newbie queue.
ooh i hope the games here don't get too toxic :o but yes we need to look at things objectively and make smart decisions, regardless of who we like or dislike :cool:

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I do think Kazyan looks like a townie here, just from reading his posts and his reply to Krazy's read, although I think anyone contributing to the conversation is more likely to be town than people not talking, right? Most games I've played the more silent the town, the better for scum

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:31 am
by Meuh
*they

sorry Kazyan

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:34 am
by Kazyan
'They' is preferred, but 'he' is fine. Don't worry about it.

Yeah, Mafia is a game where every argument gives enough clues and content for someone to start another argument. The random voting stage gets that first one going.

VOTE: ItalianoVD. Hat is too silly.

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:01 am
by Harumi Ayasato
Does anyone else find the constant use of emoticons to come off as insincere, or is it just me?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:17 am
by Krazy
I did notice them but I think it's just playstyle and NAI. I like the kazy townread which to me is more AI (townie) but while meuh is townlean I could still see her going either way

NAI = not alignment indicative

Harumi - marci - kazy

Meuh

Italiano

Cantrip

[Eth0s, 2nd] -- not scumreads, just nullreads where I need more posts to evaluate

Cantrip I very slightly scumread only because he didn't imply a read/guttake of me after asking me questions on page 1 but that's a below rand reason to scumread someone so very close to null there too


Rand = random, I might shorthand that a lot, if I ever slip into weird terms and forget to explain let me know

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:18 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 38, Harumi Ayasato wrote:Does anyone else find the constant use of emoticons to come off as insincere, or is it just me?
What’s your definition of constant? And myself, meuh, and Marcistar all used them, so we’re all insincere?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:21 am
by Krazy
That's funny I thought the comment was about meuh exclusively since hers were the only ones that jumped out at me

I think the sunglasses emote always jumps out at me though, I think that emote in particular reads as insincere just because it looks slightly off for some reason

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:34 am
by Krazy
In post 18, Meuh wrote:Hey everyone!!! time for town to win :cool: VOTE:
Kazyan
for not having an anime girl as their pfp.

Scummies, you should out yourselves now! Otherwise we'll catch you and you'll face HARSH consequences for your crimes :D
If we're getting into weird tone reads, I do think making her first vote pink is more likely to come from town (again, this is probably not reliable but this opening is why I have her in the upper half)

I don't think scum *tend* to draw attention to their vote in that specific manner, but it could be NAI, page 1 tonereads are always tricky business

(Saves the thread the inevitable 'is the greeting tell real' zzz discussion by pointing to the more ai part of the post imo)

Spoiler: greeting tell
last year there was a discussion of whether going 'hey everyone' at the start of a game is scum indicative. Hence 'greeting tell'. It's close enough to rand that it's boring to discuss. I think the pink text in the vote is way more interesting.


Most 'tells' are close to rand anyway, thought process evaluation is always the best way to hunt imo. 'tells' are just another way to get an initial grip on the game or get the game out of rvs

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:42 am
by Krazy
Lol even writing that I'm like 'damn u could be wrong on meuh' but I like the read and I'm holding it at least through page 5!

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:49 am
by marcistar
In post 38, Harumi Ayasato wrote:Does anyone else find the constant use of emoticons to come off as insincere, or is it just me?
I do agree with krazy that emojis isnt really alignment indicative.

It's good conversation for early game I think, but if it progresses later on dont let the emojis cloud your judgement!! I think actions > emojis :giggle:

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:54 am
by Meuh
In post 38, Harumi Ayasato wrote:Does anyone else find the constant use of emoticons to come off as insincere, or is it just me?
most of my emoji use goes something like this:
-I use the emoji ironically
-I use the emoji semi ironically
-I use it unironically

which is probably the reason why

I think the sunglasses is the clearest case of this :cool: (i never really use it to convey i'm cool, i just use it to enrich the way i speak) but i just like using them, people find them odd sometimes but who really cares? i'm not gonna be boring to look more sincere or less cringe :lol: better to be extravagant than to limit myself :]

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:02 pm
by Kazyan
Cringe level is NAI; you heard it here, folks.

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:08 pm
by Krazy
In post 40, ItalianoVD wrote:What’s your definition of constant? And myself, meuh, and Marcistar all used them, so we’re all insincere?

the weird defensiveness of this post might be a little scummy too, maybe I'll move italiano out of lean town

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:22 pm
by ItalianoVD
In post 42, Krazy wrote:I don't think scum *tend* to draw attention to their vote in that specific manner, but it could be NAI, page 1 tonereads are always tricky business
To go further with your point this here:
In post 18, Meuh wrote:Scummies, you should out yourselves now! Otherwise we'll catch you and you'll face HARSH consequences for your crimes
is townie looseness methinks.

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:24 pm
by ItalianoVD
In post 47, Krazy wrote:the weird defensiveness of this post might be a little scummy too, maybe I'll move italiano out of lean town
Not defensive, just want them to explain what they mean and who they’re talking about.