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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:29 am
by Bingle
In post 22, Loftwing wrote:I rolled Cult and got Cult. Is this bad, or does that just make me Korina?
I'm pretty sure it confirms you're not Korina. It's pretty much a guarantee that Korina never gets to join the cult at this point, to the point where I had to make an entire setup to force it to happen.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:33 am
by Bingle
In post 21, cyrus62 wrote:so i have a few ideas. 1st one if everyone who rolled cult but didnt get it type the letter c. if you didnt roll cult type the letters n/a . and if you fudged a dice type fudge and what dice you fudge . for me it would be n/a fudge dice 2. now you dont have to play along if you dont want to . but this might help us find out if there is a cult or not.
This is probably a waste of time, but if someone wants to claim they rolled cult into survivor I'd be happy to give them space and look for other scum for now. I'm down with letting 3rd parties win if they can win with me.
You should not claim fudge dice usage, because it potentially narrows down who got useful powers/not useful powers.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:35 am
by Bingle
In post 12, Bingle wrote:
I too am here to tell you about the good news. My good news is that there ARE places that aren’t New Jersey.
To be clear, I am also evangelistic. Anyone else who is a miller type should claim immediately.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:40 am
by Cook
A reminder that Not_Mafia is not in this game.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:43 am
by Loftwing
Well, get Not_Mafia in here so we can kill him!
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:46 am
by Quiet Owl
But he's Not_Mafia.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:47 am
by Cook
This setup is precisely as it was advertised. There are no hidden bastard elements, additions of players except for genuine replacements, or any mod-made alterations to the setup that were not directly advertised (for example, I would remove modifiers that were redundant or would not make sense on the role they were modifying {a Reflexive Mason doesn't work, and Even Night Odd Night Cop is just a regular Cop}, or if multiple people rolled Cult I took the first roll and then made everyone else 3P.) If single-member Masonries existed I merged them, maintaining their same guarantees, as outlined in the OP.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:56 am
by Bingle
You never said it was in New Jersey.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:28 am
by cyrus62
im only here to help town. so my ideas may not be best. but at least im trying.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:36 am
by Quiet Owl
Obviously cutting day 1 short is stupid, but is there any benefit to keeping the claimed cult leader around? They've got a motive to hunt scum, but arguably so do any other factions in the game, and if they make it to night 1 we risk having a townie converted.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:48 am
by Bingle
In post 34, Quiet Owl wrote:Obviously cutting day 1 short is stupid, but is there any benefit to keeping the claimed cult leader around? They've got a motive to hunt scum, but arguably so do any other factions in the game, and if they make it to night 1 we risk having a townie converted.
Yes, actually. Even if that is a genuine cult leader claim I don't want to kill it with fire atm.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:04 am
by Loftwing
Don't worry, I'm thw head of Scientology and have thus already won.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:09 am
by Quiet Owl
Loftwing goes on the "If We Reach The Deadline And Don't Have A Better Option By Then" wagon list then.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:20 am
by Bingle
Nah, Loftwing goes on the "Probably Gets Shot N1, Reevaluate if They're Somehow Still Here N2" List
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:32 am
by Loftwing
But fr though, I'm not a cultist. I landed directly into town territory, where even my fudge pudding die couldn't save me.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:37 am
by Quiet Owl
Why would you fake claim scum that's like the most anti-town thing you could possibly do
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:44 am
by Dunnstral
my role is scuffed
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:04 pm
by Bingle
In post 40, Quiet Owl wrote:Why would you fake claim scum that's like the most anti-town thing you could possibly do
Why would you claim scum as scum?
There are two potential answers to why Loftwing is Loftwinging:
Loftwing is lolcatting or Loftwing is Jester. The first is NAI. The second is potentially game ending for scum. If somehow Loftwing IS cult, that's actually the biggest threat to all of the individual scumteams.
tl;dr Scum should definitely shoot the person who can maybe end the game, and not just to set up a vig claim down the line. Similarly, Loftwing is a pretty good vig target. Loftwing should not be the elimination today at all.
VOTE: Quiet Owl
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:14 pm
by cyrus62
In post 42, Bingle wrote: In post 40, Quiet Owl wrote:Why would you fake claim scum that's like the most anti-town thing you could possibly do
Why would you claim scum as scum?
There are two potential answers to why Loftwing is Loftwinging:
Loftwing is lolcatting or Loftwing is Jester. The first is NAI. The second is potentially game ending for scum. If somehow Loftwing IS cult, that's actually the biggest threat to all of the individual scumteams.
tl;dr Scum should definitely shoot the person who can maybe end the game, and not just to set up a vig claim down the line. Similarly, Loftwing is a pretty good vig target. Loftwing should not be the elimination today at all.
VOTE: Quiet Owl
work with me.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:16 pm
by cyrus62
like i think i already messed up posting i think me hiding this game would have been best.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:36 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 21, cyrus62 wrote:so i have a few ideas. 1st one if everyone who rolled cult but didnt get it type the letter c. if you didnt roll cult type the letters n/a . and if you fudged a dice type fudge and what dice you fudge . for me it would be n/a fudge dice 2. now you dont have to play along if you dont want to . but this might help us find out if there is a cult or not.
What stops them from lying?
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:44 pm
by Loftwing
In post 42, Bingle wrote: In post 40, Quiet Owl wrote:Why would you fake claim scum that's like the most anti-town thing you could possibly do
Why would you claim scum as scum?
There are two potential answers to why Loftwing is Loftwinging:
Loftwing is lolcatting or Loftwing is Jester. The first is NAI. The second is potentially game ending for scum. If somehow Loftwing IS cult, that's actually the biggest threat to all of the individual scumteams.
tl;dr Scum should definitely shoot the person who can maybe end the game, and not just to set up a vig claim down the line. Similarly, Loftwing is a pretty good vig target. Loftwing should not be the elimination today at all.
VOTE: Quiet Owl
hehehe yeees, attack me scummy bois~
In any case, I didn't get much from slayering. Then again, I didn't intend on slayering, it just kinda happened.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:52 pm
by StrangeMatter
So I came back to this thread, but what’s slayering, and how does Cult Wincon work again?
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:54 pm
by Loftwing
Slayering (Slayer's Gambit) is intentionally acting scummy to garner a reaction out of players, usually to help determine if they are scum.
Cult has the same wincon as any other Minority faction, but instead of a factional kill, they get a factional conversion.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:01 pm
by Cook
Cult cannot kill on its own. The Cult Leader is its only member at the start. The Cult Leader can target someone each night to attempt to convert them to the Cult, retaining their original powers but changing their alignment to Cult. Town and 3P can be culted. Mafia, Werewolves, and Aliens will resist the attempt, unless they are the only member of their team left.