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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:44 am
by shaft.ed
Claus wrote:Do you guys want to discuss setup choices?

Someone should pick stephen king so we can break the setup :-P
I didn't have the balls to take a high profile target :roll:

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:58 am
by shaft.ed
Another rules question:
3.) If one Mafioso or Serial Killer and one town-aligned player are the last two players alive, the Mafioso/Serial Killer wins. If one Mafioso and Serial Killer are the last two players remaining, everyone dies and no one wins.
Is this even the case if the last townie has a killing role, like the Bomb. Or if the last scum has been poisoned so he will die whilst performing the NK?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:16 am
by curiouskarmadog
shaft.ed wrote:Another rules question:
3.) If one Mafioso or Serial Killer and one town-aligned player are the last two players alive, the Mafioso/Serial Killer wins. If one Mafioso and Serial Killer are the last two players remaining, everyone dies and no one wins.
Is this even the case if the last townie has a killing role, like the Bomb. Or if the last scum has been poisoned so he will die whilst performing the NK?

ack, time to amend some rules (shafted where were you when I needed help crafting this game?)

if the last townie (in your scenario) has a killing role (like a bomb or vig) the game is a double loss (I dont believe in ties), for they will kill each other that night.

the same goes for your scenario where the last scum is posioned, double loss (scum dies of posion, townie dies by scum).

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:24 am
by Claus
shaft.ed wrote: I didn't have the balls to take a high profile target :roll:
I was this close to picking him - but I couldn't let the two word P.R. pass :-)

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:38 am
by shaft.ed
Claus wrote:
shaft.ed wrote: I didn't have the balls to take a high profile target :roll:
I was this close to picking him - but I couldn't let the two word P.R. pass :-)
I seriously don't see him surviving passed Day 2.

More annoying detailed role mechanic questions.

If the inventor passes you an ability, can you use that in addition to your ability/NK?

If the inventor targets the hiding hider will it be the same effect as with watcher tracker etc. (I suppose all roles will function as the watcher and tracker in not being able to directly target the hiding hider)?

If the bomb targets someone who doesn't die (ie doc protected, future man, hiding hider) does the bomb die?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:08 am
by TheHermit
Because I have no sense of self-preservation, I pick Stephen King.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:14 am
by Claus
Yay!

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:37 am
by Megatron
I'll take Brog.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:38 am
by shaft.ed
OK claus tell us about the breaking strategy before you get your scum role PM.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:38 am
by Megatron
Also, since Brog is a neanderthal, can I even speak coherently?

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:39 am
by shaft.ed
I think the bomb and the double voter are going to get left out. Double voter's get no love.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:39 am
by Megatron
Nevermind, I'm dumb, one re-read of the first post clarified that.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:40 am
by shaft.ed
Megatron wrote:Also, since Brog is a neanderthal, can I even speak coherently?
apparently as long as he doesn't have autism he's good to go.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:47 am
by Claus
I was joking about the breaking strategy - I, at least, have none - if you're serious about it we should have discussed it BEFORE picking roles like coins in a pond :-D (ooops, that was me, sorry)

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:51 am
by Twomz
shaft.ed wrote:I think the bomb and the double voter are going to get left out. Double voter's get no love.
I wouldn't say that >.>

Just waiting on Winter...

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:09 am
by shaft.ed
Twomz wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:I think the bomb and the double voter are going to get left out. Double voter's get no love.
I wouldn't say that >.>

Just waiting on Winter...
So you'd rather be a double voter than a Doc/Watcher/Inventor? I guess it is a power that swings nicely in both directions, but you'll have to make it to end game for it to reach its full potential.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:19 am
by W!nt3r
I'll take Mr. King.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:20 am
by W!nt3r
Oh nevermind, hermit picked him

and brog is taken

I'll take the Doublevoter

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:58 am
by Twomz
Arg, that's who I was going to pick :(. Just a sec.

Jonathan Wild.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:20 am
by Cyberbob
Waiting on Pug... who looks as though he's going to be stuck with the Doctor.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:24 am
by curiouskarmadog
shaft.ed wrote: More annoying detailed role mechanic questions.

If the inventor passes you an ability, can you use that in addition to your ability/NK?

If the inventor targets the hiding hider will it be the same effect as with watcher tracker etc. (I suppose all roles will function as the watcher and tracker in not being able to directly target the hiding hider)?

If the bomb targets someone who doesn't die (ie doc protected, future man, hiding hider) does the bomb die?
yes, if the inventor passes you a one shot ability, you can use that along with your other ability.

IF the inventor targets the hiding hider, the hider does not get the one shot gift. HOWEVER, the one shot gift is not used up, because the inventor never found the hider to give him the gift. On the more confusing flip side, if the JoaT targets the hiding hider, it does not hit the hider, but the one shot ability IS used up (I envision the two different roles with different mechanics).

and before you ask, if the Jailkeeper targets either the JoaT or the Inventor, their one shot abilities or gifts are not used up in this game(because they are considered thrown in jail before they are able to get their ability off).

If the bomb targets someone that does not die, the bomb does not die...if the bomb target Future Man and successfully removes his first life, the bomb DOES die, and Future Man's loses one life.

Also updating the alignment rules, the SK can not be investigated by the cop gift, meaning an investigation would result in an "innocent".

Pug 89 is up

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:25 am
by Cyberbob
My brain hurts slightly.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:32 am
by shaft.ed
Cyberbob wrote:My brain hurts slightly.
That will happen in small town's. It's compression not enough room for the brains due to the tiny town size.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:34 am
by shaft.ed
Cyberbob wrote:Waiting on Pug... who looks as though he's going to be stuck with the Doctor.
Could take the inventor, the one shot cop might be critical. Doc protects hardly ever matter, but I guess with all the beefy power roles the threat of a Doc is most useful.

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:40 am
by Cyberbob
shaft.ed wrote:Could take the inventor, the one shot cop might be critical. Doc protects hardly ever matter, but I guess with all the beefy power roles the threat of a Doc is most useful.
The Doctor would make a good team with the Role Absorber, too... which reminds me:

What happens if the Role Absorber is targeted by the Inventor?