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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:24 am
by DkKoba
Votecount 1.2

Na Paryskie Getto Pada Deszcz - Taco Hemingway feat. Borucci





bababooey
(2): Galron, bababooey
Andante
(1): Dwlee99
Greeting
(1): fua
Capo22
(1): Greeting
Galron
(1): Scorpious
Ahri
(1): butterchurn
Dwlee99
(1): Capo22

Not Voting
(5): Andante, Hella Jeff, geraintm, Quiet Owl, Ahri

Day 1 deadline ends in: (expired on 2022-01-27 10:31:11).

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:34 am
by Capo22
Good. I can now manufacture reads and blame non-newbies for the low effort without suspicion :P

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:35 am
by Capo22
In post 10, geraintm wrote:
In post 8, Capo22 wrote:There can be only one multiple of 11
VOTE: Dwlee99
11?
XI, if you're roman by any chance.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:37 am
by Capo22
In post 12, fua wrote:VOTE: Hella Jeff
In post 13, bababooey wrote:VOTE: bababooey
Would scum really do this together/

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:44 am
by butterchurn
I find the RVS vote without any other intro or explanation to be pretty useless, at best. Making it a self-vote on top of that? That just feels like deliberately adding no information to the thread.
In post 23, fua wrote:VOTE: Greeting
Why the switch?

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:32 am
by Scorpious
In post 20, butterchurn wrote:Personally, I know that I tend to be a bit more cavalier with my townreads as mafia, because everything that a confirmed town does looks towny, and you can easily just hand them out like candy. As town I'm more hesitant and paranoid. But I've seen that a lot of people on this site tend to have a... looser approach than what I'm used to, so I dunno. Still weirds me out, though.
In post 21, Greeting wrote:
In post 20, butterchurn wrote:Personally, I know that I tend to be a bit more cavalier with my townreads as mafia, because everything that a confirmed town does looks towny, and you can easily just hand them out like candy. As town I'm more hesitant and paranoid. But I've seen that a lot of people on this site tend to have a... looser approach than what I'm used to, so I dunno. Still weirds me out, though.
My personal experience so far is that outside of Newbie games players tend to put in less effort into reads. After playing like 3-4 Newbies in which players, also other than myself, were efforting rather much and sticking strictly to using logic and reads to solve the game (or misleading town in the case of mafia-aligned players) I played Open 838 and was slightly disappointed.
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I think that's because Newbie games are meant to prepare you for what is supposed to be good mafia play and then, when you're past the learning phase, you get confronted with reality. Kinda like how school prepares you for a world that doesn't exist.


Please do not discuss ongoing games. I redacted a sentence in this post. ~ Koba
It’s inevitable. So I’m going to get the ball rolling…
This is damn early to be having discussion. No?

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:47 am
by butterchurn
"Discussion"? Can you clarify what you mean by that? Because surely you're not saying it's too early to... discuss things. And, you know, play the game. Why wait? Slow/content-lacking game starts are scum-favored.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:49 am
by Greeting
In post 23, fua wrote:VOTE: Greeting
I take it as not an RVS vote. Funny how it happened right after I spoke of reads being unsubstantiated.
In post 30, Scorpious wrote:
It’s inevitable. So I’m going to get the ball rolling…
This is damn early to be having discussion. No?
I saw an opportunity to use this thread as my personal confession box and I took it. I don't think there's much discussion here, since
butterchurn
chose not to respond to that.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:51 am
by Greeting
In post 26, Capo22 wrote:Good. I can now manufacture reads and blame non-newbies for the low effort without suspicion :P
In post 27, Capo22 wrote:
In post 10, geraintm wrote:
In post 8, Capo22 wrote:There can be only one multiple of 11
VOTE: Dwlee99
11?
XI, if you're roman by any chance.
In post 28, Capo22 wrote:
In post 12, fua wrote:VOTE: Hella Jeff
In post 13, bababooey wrote:VOTE: bababooey
Would scum really do this together/
Greeting wrote: VOTE: Capo22, are you an alt of user Cape90 or is the similarity of names just a coincidence?
Why do you sound so similar to Cape90?


Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:56 am
by Scorpious
In post 31, butterchurn wrote:"Discussion"? Can you clarify what you mean by that? Because surely you're not saying it's too early to... discuss things. And, you know, play the game. Why wait? Slow/content-lacking game starts are scum-favored.
I'm just saying post #20 seems really early to transition from RVS to legit discusiion, but this is an opinion and more of a note. Not AI to me.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:00 am
by butterchurn
Personally, I think the goal of every game should be to transition from RVS to legit discussion as soon as possible, and RVS only exists in the first place as a vehicle for getting the game into the stages of legit discussion.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:16 am
by Hella Jeff
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:28 am
by fua
In post 29, butterchurn wrote:I find the RVS vote without any other intro or explanation to be pretty useless, at best. Making it a self-vote on top of that? That just feels like deliberately adding no information to the thread.
In post 23, fua wrote:VOTE: Greeting
Why the switch?
Because meta usage.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:29 am
by Hella Jeff
In post 22, Greeting wrote:
Spoiler:
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i Stil dont see what this is in referens to

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:30 am
by fua
Never mind, I don’t want to deal with this gimmick.

VOTE: Hella Jeff

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:46 am
by Hella Jeff
In post 39, fua wrote:Never mind, I don’t want to deal with this gimmick.

VOTE: Hella Jeff
OK. Who else

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 9:52 am
by Hella Jeff
VOTE: Greeting
Do you only know Cape90 from mafiascum? Your takes irk me the most right now

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:08 am
by Greeting
In post 38, Hella Jeff wrote:
In post 22, Greeting wrote:
Spoiler:
Image
i Stil dont see what this is in referens to
I won't talk about that anymore, you'll have to figure it out for yourself. Sorry.
In post 41, Hella Jeff wrote:VOTE: Greeting
Do you only know Cape90 from mafiascum? Your takes irk me the most right now
Yes, I do only know Cape90 from MafiaScum.

And why do my takes irk you the most right now?

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:12 am
by Scorpious
In post 38, Hella Jeff wrote:
In post 22, Greeting wrote:
Spoiler:
Image
i Stil dont see what this is in referens to
It references Greeting centering GIFS, That's the entirety of the reference.

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:13 am
by Scorpious
In post 41, Hella Jeff wrote:VOTE: Greeting
Do you only know Cape90 from mafiascum? Your takes irk me the most right now
Would you regard it different if they knew them from anywhere else?

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:14 am
by Hella Jeff
In post 42, Greeting wrote:Yes, I do only know Cape90 from MafiaScum.

And why do my takes irk you the most right now?
I feel like you're using your interactions + vote with Capo to stall, solidified by the fact that the person you're talking about has only one logged town game on here
content-wise, i just wouldn't have come to the same conclusion so easily, but that's most likely a difference in perspective

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:14 am
by Scorpious
In post 35, butterchurn wrote:Personally, I think the goal of every game should be to transition from RVS to legit discussion as soon as possible, and RVS only exists in the first place as a vehicle for getting the game into the stages of legit discussion.
I'm ok with this response... Early town lean here

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:17 am
by Hella Jeff
In post 44, Scorpious wrote:Would you regard it different if they knew them from anywhere else?
Yes, namely MU where they've efforted the most as both alignments, I'm not sure they can glean anything from MS Cape

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:20 am
by Hella Jeff
if it's personal curiosity then i'll drop it

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:31 am
by Greeting
In post 45, Hella Jeff wrote:
In post 42, Greeting wrote:Yes, I do only know Cape90 from MafiaScum.

And why do my takes irk you the most right now?
I feel like you're using your interactions + vote with Capo to stall, solidified by the fact that the person you're talking about has only one logged town game on here
content-wise, i just wouldn't have come to the same conclusion so easily, but that's most likely a difference in perspective
I think that knowledge is important and might be relevant for me reading that slot later. My vote on them is still very much an RVS vote.

If you think I’m stalling, then by all means, take the wheel and steer me away into another destination. I’m all ears, plus it’s not like I can’t go back either.