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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:04 am
by Ausuka
I mean, I knew the miller claim would look suspicious and I'm willing to take some flak for it but
In post 18, Xayah wrote:I know we probably won't vote the miller claim day 1 but I do think Ausuka's reaction to rolling miller seems a tad overblown here.
How is it overblown lmfao I literally just said 'I'm a miller'
VOTE: Xayah
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:04 am
by Coral
On Ausuka, I personally lean slightly town on the claim. I think it would draw too much unwanted attention for her to be willing to fake it.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:05 am
by Aristeia
In post 26, Coral wrote:On Ausuka, I personally lean slightly town on the claim. I think it would draw too much unwanted attention for her to be willing to fake it.
uh
i have never seen a town lim a miller claim. usually its just believed automatically.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:06 am
by Datisi
In post 22, Aristeia wrote:I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Ausuka decided to fake claim miller as a mafia
isn't there a difference between "not outside of the realm of possibility" and "would yeet"?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:06 am
by Aristeia
In post 24, Coral wrote:Hello everyone!! I'm really excited to play with you all
I have an idea, hear me out. The thing is, scamper's avatar is too cute. It's too powerful. If he's scum, we're literally never going to catch him because people will be about to vote and then they'll look at that cute little cat and go "aww" and then not have the heart to go through with it. So what I propose is that we eliminate him now before he has a chance to post again. I've run the numbers on expected win percentages and there's no time to explain it in detail, but trust me, it's the mechanically optimal play.
VOTE: scamper
Quickly, it's our only chance!
scamper is too cute to vote tho >___>
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:07 am
by Coral
In post 27, Aristeia wrote: In post 26, Coral wrote:On Ausuka, I personally lean slightly town on the claim. I think it would draw too much unwanted attention for her to be willing to fake it.
uh
i have never seen a town lim a miller claim. usually its just believed automatically.
I have more thoughts on this that I will share at a later time.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:07 am
by Ausuka
In post 24, Coral wrote:I have an idea, hear me out. The thing is, scamper's avatar is too cute. It's too powerful. If he's scum, we're literally never going to catch him because people will be about to vote and then they'll look at that cute little cat and go "aww" and then not have the heart to go through with it. So what I propose is that we eliminate him now before he has a chance to post again. I've run the numbers on expected win percentages and there's no time to explain it in detail, but trust me, it's the mechanically optimal play.
this is a VERY convincing argument but unfortunately I scumread Xayah here. However I am willing to policy lim scamper on d2. Unless I get compromised by the cat's cuteness
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:07 am
by Coral
In post 29, Aristeia wrote: In post 24, Coral wrote:Hello everyone!! I'm really excited to play with you all
I have an idea, hear me out. The thing is, scamper's avatar is too cute. It's too powerful. If he's scum, we're literally never going to catch him because people will be about to vote and then they'll look at that cute little cat and go "aww" and then not have the heart to go through with it. So what I propose is that we eliminate him now before he has a chance to post again. I've run the numbers on expected win percentages and there's no time to explain it in detail, but trust me, it's the mechanically optimal play.
VOTE: scamper
Quickly, it's our only chance!
scamper is too cute to vote tho >___>
Oh no, it's already too late...
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:08 am
by Aristeia
In post 28, Datisi wrote: In post 22, Aristeia wrote:I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Ausuka decided to fake claim miller as a mafia
isn't there a difference between "not outside of the realm of possibility" and "would yeet"?
willing to yeet for me is slightly +scum
i have suspicions.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:10 am
by Ph0enix
I think Ausuka's Miller claim is NAI in and of itself and while it presents the possibility that she's fakeclaiming, I believe it's too early in the day to be talking about "yeeting" anybody, given that we're only 30-ish posts in. If there's no better option by the end of the day, for example, then sure, but I think we should see how the game plays out for now.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:10 am
by Datisi
ok
why do you suspect ausuka
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:12 am
by Ph0enix
In post 33, Aristeia wrote: In post 28, Datisi wrote: In post 22, Aristeia wrote:I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Ausuka decided to fake claim miller as a mafia
isn't there a difference between "not outside of the realm of possibility" and "would yeet"?
willing to yeet for me is slightly +scum
i have suspicions.
Could you rephrase that, I don't understand what you mean there.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:14 am
by Datisi
In post 34, Ph0enix wrote:I believe it's too early in the day to be talking about "yeeting" anybody
???
do you think the game has to be x posts long before we can talk about murder?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:29 am
by Ph0enix
In post 37, Datisi wrote: In post 34, Ph0enix wrote:I believe it's too early in the day to be talking about "yeeting" anybody
???
do you think the game has to be x posts long before we can talk about murder?
No, my point is to not tunnel vision on one player so early in the day. I get where Aristeia is coming from, and if by the end of the day we haven't reached a conclusion to eliminate someone else, I'm fine with voting off Ausuka as well.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:32 am
by Ausuka
Phoenix, didn't you say my claim was NAI? That doesn't sound like you get where she's coming from.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:44 am
by Ph0enix
In post 39, Ausuka wrote:Phoenix, didn't you say my claim was NAI? That doesn't sound like you get where she's coming from.
I did. I think it is NAI by itself, but in a scenario where at the end of the day there's no good options for an elimination, I'd choose the player who has claimed Miller over someone who hasn't cause betting on someone having fakeclaimed Miller at the beginning of D1 is better than voting at random, IMO. I think Aristeia is saying the same thing (@Aristeia: Feel free to correct me if I'm misinterpreting), it's just the way she phrased it that bugged me cause it made it seem in my eyes that she's fine "yeeting" you right now as it is, which I'm not.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:52 am
by scamper
In post 24, Coral wrote:Hello everyone!! I'm really excited to play with you all
I have an idea, hear me out. The thing is, scamper's avatar is too cute. It's too powerful. If he's scum, we're literally never going to catch him because people will be about to vote and then they'll look at that cute little cat and go "aww" and then not have the heart to go through with it. So what I propose is that we eliminate him now before he has a chance to post again. I've run the numbers on expected win percentages and there's no time to explain it in detail, but trust me, it's the mechanically optimal play.
VOTE: scamper
Quickly, it's our only chance!
<.<
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:57 am
by Coral
I'm severely disappointed nobody took me up on it. The window of opportunity has closed now, so you'd better be town.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:59 am
by scamper
i am!
i kinda think phoenix is townie
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:02 am
by MegAzumarill
Disagree so far
38 struck me as a little lamist.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:57 am
by Xayah
In post 20, Ph0enix wrote: In post 18, Xayah wrote:I know we probably won't vote the miller claim day 1 but I do think Ausuka's reaction to rolling miller seems a tad overblown here.
It seems she's unhappy to have gotten the role, but do you think her reaction is AI, though?
I understand being "unhappy" to get miller (to some extent I don't think it's that big a deal and that could be playing into my mindset a little) but the 3 posts talking about it as if it's the worst role in the world seems like an overreaction and a half
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:59 am
by Xayah
In post 26, Coral wrote:On Ausuka, I personally lean slightly town on the claim. I think it would draw too much unwanted attention for her to be willing to fake it.
I disagree. I've rarely seen millers ever get some sort of heat for the claim. It's just sort of nodded at and accepted, I think we should ignore the miller part and focus on the play
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:01 am
by Ausuka
In post 45, Xayah wrote:the 3 posts talking about it as if it's the worst role in the world
This literally never happened
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:01 am
by Xayah
In post 37, Datisi wrote: In post 34, Ph0enix wrote:I believe it's too early in the day to be talking about "yeeting" anybody
???
do you think the game has to be x posts long before we can talk about murder?
Ausuka being miller isn't the problem it's the way they reacted to it, but this overbearing tone might just be a them thing. I'm not really sure I get why you're asking so many questions without putting in much work yourself. Seems a bit tip-toey.
VOTE: Datisi
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:27 am
by Irrelephant11
*slow lumbering stomp*