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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:27 am
by Rad
Tbh you just played really well malcolm, imo. I don't think I pick you out as scum if you didn't target me specifically. So I was worried I was conf biasing you, and mala scum seemed like a no brainer that I would actually have to overthink to conclude that she was town.

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:59 am
by catboi
lot of folks about to be very unhappy

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:26 am
by Bell
I won't be unhappy if I'm wrong about CG, surprised, but not unhappy

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:27 am
by Bell
It's a cliff hanger. I see how it is.

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:37 am
by Malakittens
Sounds like cg might flip town

But I hope not!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:09 am
by Bell
I mean, based on the vague wording I'm going to guess there's going to be some sort of weird set up reltaed confusion which is going to send town into the wilderness where they will all die lost and alone.

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:35 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 25, Rad wrote:Tbh you just played really well malcolm, imo. I don't think I pick you out as scum if you didn't target me specifically. So I was worried I was conf biasing you, and mala scum seemed like a no brainer that I would actually have to overthink to conclude that she was town.
Cheers, I didn't think I was great as such but I definitely play better as scum than town. Mostly because I'm one of the few people who prefer being scum. You had a really strong game though, showed a willingness to compromise in the spirit of town and avoided trying to survive based on ego, but your read on me was bang on.

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:56 am
by MalcolmTucker

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:57 am
by MalcolmTucker
Wait, that didn't link right, but still, I think it'll be an interesting finish now. I'd have it at 60/40 for town maybe.

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:35 pm
by Bell
In post 33, MalcolmTucker wrote:Wait, that didn't link right, but still, I think it'll be an interesting finish now. I'd have it at 60/40 for town maybe.
Ew, that's not a number you'd put out if C&G were scum.
That's weird.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:46 am
by Bell
*hangs by 2 fingers for 2 days* I could do this for days.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:57 am
by catboi
I made the executive call to carry on myself since std hadn't posted in 2 days

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:04 am
by Cytosine and Guanine
Well, now I am wondering why Drapion faked a guilty on us... I was really worried about death miller mechanics as that was just the only reason I could see Drapion pulling such a move. I think they could buy more time in terms of "not being night killed yet" by just shooting the masons first. Unlike the masons, some of us were still suspecting Drapion, so it would make some sense to kill the masons first for paranoia factor even if town Drapion could in theory get a guilty. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me why Drapion felt the need to sacrifice themselves to guarantee our elimination when they could have scored our elimination without doing so.
~Cytosine

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:09 am
by Rad
ngl I'm super disappointed in c&g flipping town here. I'd have read you completely differently without all the bs surrounding the 100 word limit, breaking it, having no penalty, etc. I was heavily relying on game integrity being important there. Sorry I wasn't able to get past that.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:12 am
by Cytosine and Guanine
It's okay. It's not like we did a stellar job convincing people we were town anyway. I do wish we had killed Malcolm before you. That was a major mistake on my part thinking you had the higher likelihood of flipping scum.
~Cytosine

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:32 am
by furtiveglance
So it's literally just Drapion and someone else then?

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:48 am
by Bell
In post 40, furtiveglance wrote:So it's literally just Drapion and someone else then?
I wouldn't be confident with a drapion scum claim there. They didn't need to claim a guilty.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:53 am
by RH9
In post 41, Bell wrote:
In post 40, furtiveglance wrote:So it's literally just Drapion and someone else then?
I wouldn't be confident with a drapion scum claim there. They didn't need to claim a guilty.
That's a good point.
Though, if he isn't scum, there is a scum Framer.
Which is going to make it hard because the most likely to be a Framer are Yeet and Johnny, provided the Framer didn't visit when Drapion wasn't tracking them.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:32 pm
by furtiveglance
Framer in a closed setup is just annoying!

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 1:48 pm
by RH9
In post 43, furtiveglance wrote:Framer in a closed setup is just annoying!
That would count as being minor Bastard, though.
On the other hand, I've never actually seen a Framer used in a Closed before.
(And I'm not sure which character makes sense as Framer.)

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:28 pm
by Ircher
Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No)
By this definition, framer wouldn't be bastard since tailor and godfather aren't bastard. Also by this definition, I don't think talking to the dead counts either.

The mini theme's version of bastard definition includes post restrictions, so that might be the "minor bastard elements" in the game.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:40 pm
by RH9
In post 45, Ircher wrote:
Is it possible your game has any of the following: cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game? (Yes/No)
By this definition, framer wouldn't be bastard since tailor and godfather aren't bastard. Also by this definition, I don't think talking to the dead counts either.

The mini theme's version of bastard definition includes post restrictions, so that might be the "minor bastard elements" in the game.
This makes sense.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:08 pm
by Rad
Hey I've forgotten. Who was C and who was G?

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:26 pm
by RH9
In post 47, Rad wrote:Hey I've forgotten. Who was C and who was G?
I was Guanine.
Sorry for doubting you and flipping my read on Malcolm.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 12:18 pm
by MalcolmTucker
Excited to see where things go from here.