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ahh i meant mneme, not phoebus (but you knew that)

ugh sorry for all the stupidity. hopefully i can make up for it.

so, the thing that killed Prof X, drummer, sounds a lot like a sentinel. and did i read that correctly, or was it immune to prof X's abilities? since it's a robot is it safe to say any other mind controlling roles our there will have no luck if you target this guy? just something to keep in mind maybe. hope i haven't said too much.

mneme wrote:I try to never assume a game is "normal". If someone insists, without evidence, that there's exactly one serial killer, or 3 mafia, chances are they're selling something (or know something you don't.

Well, considering this is a mini, I'd be expecting it to have just that. 3 mafia and 1 sk.

Spot on lulu muumuu

Anyway, 2 dead, and one is s serial killer, in that case, its normal to assume that originally there are 3 killing groups, and with a serial killer down, it is possible that there are 2 left, now either there are still a SK, 2/3 Mafia or 2 groups of 2 member mafia or as was mention mafia + a vig that decided to play chance..... (and the Mod kill options) there are not really much more options since we only have (well, had) 12 players... well, thats my speculation for the day.......

So, Venom probably killed by the Punisher? What do you guys think?

Help me out here please.
Punisher?

Disclaimer: I am not convesant with all of marvel comics. I know them more from the cartoons than the books.

The Punisher is a vigilante type character who is taking revenge on "the bad guys" for killing his family, I believe. I hadn't thought of the Punisher, but it fits. Good job, Caves!

So the Punisher is more than likely a vig? Please, Punisher, don't help us out tonight (or any night) unless we somehow are confident that we've identified more scum than we can lynch in a day.

i found this info on the Punisher:

IGN.com wrote:

The Punisher has remained a fan favorite and a constant source of controversy, at least in the Marvel universe. A quick over view of The Punisher's backstory reveals why he's so compelling. Originally an undercover FBI agent, former Marine Frank Castle is the sole survivor of a mob hit. Instead of the Mob shooting him down, he survives the hit only to see his wife and children gunned down before his eyes. Distraught, Castle decides to take matters into his own hands, employing his military and FBI skills as the judge, jury and executioner as the dark anti-hero The Punisher. ...
A weapons expert, a former Marine and an undercover agent, Castle is quick to use any and all resources at his fingertips. Since he doesn't have any super powers, he utilizes his quickness and cunning to outthink and to psychologically hammer his enemy. Every object in an environment becomes a possible weapon or means of harm.

i guess he's more of a good guy character than Venom, but i dont know if that would clear him.
are two SKs and two mafia too much? i was just thinking that IF this character is actually the Punisher, perhaps he's a vig, who's side goal was to find Venom, and if he did so, he'd kill him (and vice versa). so maybe he just got really lucky, and was not actually out to kill anyone.

but this is all hypothetical, and should be taken with a grain of salt-- especially if he he's actually the other SK and we need to lynch him

If it is the Punisher, I believe we have a vigilante, not another SK.

I would concur, if the Punisher is in here, he would most likely have to be a vigilante, I mean thats what he is in the comics, all be it a very vicious one.

I'll be off-line until Monday.

Rather interesting for a vig to be using his power on night one.
Maybe he's gone mad or something. Night 2 will decide stuff I suppose.
No clue who to vote for yte. Am thinking of bandwagongin someone to get started...

I'll be here very little untill monday morning....sorry guys, after that I should be here even more often. Thanks.

lulu wrote:are two SKs and two mafia too much?

Do you mean two SKs and a mafia team of two? Or two SKs and two mafia teams?
The kills would indicate either two mafia and an SK, therefore making the Punisher part of one mafia team, or one mafia team and two SKs with the Punisher being SK 2.
If you are indeed thinking of two SK and two mafia teams...
If he is a vig, he got very lucky on N1, but it was dangerously poor play.
Night 2 should make things clearer. we can only hope he indeed looking for Venom.
That brings me to question 2: Was there any history between the two? Are the part of the same comic? If not, it brings us back to him being SK. (I have no clue on either character, so I will probably be wrong)

Also, . It's just a feeling. I'm open to suggestion elsewhere.

i was thinking two SKs and one mafia team of two (the sentinels, or a sentinel and senator kelly or something).

venom and punisher are not part of the same comic (but all marvel characters are aware of each other and exist in the same universe), but i was actually looking to see if they had any crossover comics, and lookie:

evidence of venom vs punisher crossovers

so perhaps they are both Vig, or one Vig and one SK or both SK. if at least punisher is a vig, and is a more experineced player, i doubt that they would go for a vig kill night one, and that's why i presented the possibility of punisher having the side goal of finding venom, and then killing him.

and for the record, i know venom was an SK in this game, but in his comics he's also a sort of whacked out vig. i guess i dont see punisher as being a very evil character, but he can be vengeful to the extreme and that's why i wouldn't TOTALLY rule out the possibility of him being an SK.

just trying to cover all bases.

Interesting.
Vote still stays though, on basis of feeling and lack of a better place to put it.

Interesting find lulu, but I really don't think that there'd be any real relation between Punisher and Venom here. It just seems too "out there" of a concept for this game.

like i said, just trying to cover all bases. please don't let a feeling turn into a lynch just because i'm into the theme.

Enough discussion about our sk/vig. We need to lych someone. Lulu has two votes. Fiveothers have one each. I will change mine to get things going.

Just so there will be two with 2 votes each.

I may not be able to post for the next three days (until Wednesday evening. I doubt I'll be missed.

I personally don't like to be a part of a bandwagon lynch and I'm afraid that is where this is going.

lulu wrote:like i said, just trying to cover all bases. please don't let a feeling turn into a lynch just because i'm into the theme.

You covering all bases. Aceptable. And you even came up with a link with info. However I'm just keeping my vote on you on the basis of feeling and lack of a better place to put it. Toodle's was random. You still need four more. You're not being lynched. Don't worry.

Speaking of which, at two votes, Toodle unvotes lulu which was her "random" vote. Quailman has voted in between for an entirely third person and Toodle calls two votes 'the beginning' of a bandwagon. That sends bells ringing. Defensiveness and pre-emptiveness combined?

Call me paranoid. Call me wrong.

for crap logic. Bandwagon lynches are essential on day 1.

Phoebus: You're paranoid... you're wrong.

Dragon Phoenix: Crap logic? Okay, you can see it that way, but I unvoted lulu because Phoebus stated that he was going to start a bandwagon... plain and simple and yes they are a part of day one, but I'm not going to particpate and cast a vote unless I see that it's warranted. (Other than my first random vote!)

FOS: Phoebus

Being defensive over someone else when there is only 2 votes is just over the top and Paranoid considering this is only day 1.

Wow... now I've got two votes on me? I try to play it safe and get called paranoid and get voted for... would it be better if I just come out with guns blazing? Fine.