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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:58 pm

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I swear, I really wish you'd stop confusing me for your dad. Its getting...yeah.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:59 pm

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I swear, I really wish you'd stop confusing me for your dad. Its getting...yeah.
At this point it is manifestly obvious you had nothing NEAR a good comeback.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:07 pm

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Your correct use of the word "manifestly" is quite impressive.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:37 pm

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This argument sucks. It's just a flame-war with the energy of a melted candle. What's the point?
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:57 pm

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This argument sucks. It's just a flame-war with the energy of a melted candle. What's the point?
I'm doing it for more ppd ^-^.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:57 pm

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same
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:58 pm

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ewww FL was born in the same year as me *throws up*
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:03 pm

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ewww FL was born in the same year as me *throws up*
Oh really? Geez, that does suck.

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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:36 pm

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I'll be voting in favour of the proposal. I think it's a good shot at a townie ticket.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:25 am

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Sorry, I've been busy the past few days, and it seems like I've missed the party.

For what it's worth now:

Rebels:
Me
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FL? (more later)
Psycho (but a misguided one)

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Crazy (for being generally coherent but not making sense. FYI, changing what you say every 5 minutes is an ideal way to confuse/mislead the town)
Veerus, KOC, ABR for continuing to support silent, random distribution in the face of overwhelming odds. I have yet to see from any of them an explanation of how their strategy delivers us anything better than 5% odds of winning.

I have some misgivings about FL's proposal. Even though it was "well documented" I
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But given the context of her ban on self-noms (rejecting one from ABR), I can see how that would be overlooked.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:25 am

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Yeah like I said, I don't like FL or Nab. Both incredibly scummy.

Nabakov keeps pulling numbers outta his ass and presenting them as fact but I am not at all convinced. Looks like someone trying hard to look town but they're scum.

FL is the worse-looking player here, and its no secret she's on my scumlist.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:39 am

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NabNab wrote:Crazy (for being generally coherent but not making sense. FYI, changing what you say every 5 minutes is an ideal way to confuse/mislead the town)
Thanks for giving me that much credit, but changing my opinion so often just makes everyone stop listening to me, which is what happened.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:57 am

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FL is the worse-looking player here, and its no secret she's on my scumlist.
What's secret is the case behind it

I have some misgivings about FL's proposal. Even though it was "well documented" I am unsettled by FL's flip-flop from supporting to rejecting self-noms. If FL were actually a rebel, it should not have been an epiphany to her that she should be included in a rebel-based proposal. The flip-flop would have been avoided because the flop was obvious from the start.
Not much I can say about this. Apparently I really suck at observing the obvious :S
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:58 am

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FL is the main player I doubt in that proposal.
Nabakov and Fishy, I have no idea about... so I'll probably be voting Yes on this.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:40 pm

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NabakovNabakov wrote: Veerus, KOC, ABR for continuing to support silent, random distribution in the face of overwhelming odds. I have yet to see from any of them an explanation of how their strategy delivers us anything better than 5% odds of winning.
First of all, I'm only pro-random distribution in D1 and maybe D2 depending on results on D1. Not all the way through the game. I believe it would offer us an unbiased pick of people whose results we can then evaluate in hindsight. The possibility of scum nominating scum injects too much WIFOM into the process.
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:29 pm

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Fish (209) wrote:Just because we don't have a consensus on whether we want a ticket comprising three scummy or three townie players doesn't mean that a jumble of some of each is acceptable.
You think FL is town?
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What a scummy post.
KoC (263) wrote:FL is the main player I doubt in that proposal.
Nabakov and Fishy, I have no idea about... so I'll probably be voting Yes on this.
There is no logic here. He is pretty much saying he thinks there's 1 scum and 2 town so he's voting for the proposal.

I have found FL scummy and if we sent the three that she's proposed in I would expect her to defect.

I am getting quite substantial scum reads from KoC, her and Crazy
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:28 pm

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ortolan wrote:You think FL is town?
My read on her was pretty neutral, verging on good (based very much off gut).

But if she were scum, consider the merits of the current proposal for her. Putting yourself up against the two townie players who probably have the most support in the town (with yourself being the possible exception) is foolish if you are going to sabotage, and foolish if you aren't. If I were FL-scum, I would certainly not have picked this proposal.

KoC: I don't understand from your post why you favour the proposal. Could you explain please?
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:42 am

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Fish (266) wrote: Putting yourself up against the two townie players who probably have the most support in the town (with yourself being the possible exception) is foolish if you are going to sabotage, and foolish if you aren't. If I were FL-scum, I would certainly not have picked this proposal.
Well, actually, considering she's pretty much been written off as scum by quite a few people already I see little reason for her not to get in a sabotage and practically confirm herself as scum. Then we still need to work out who the other three scum are anyway, plus she wouldn't really be demonstrating something we didn't already know.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:28 am

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KoC wrote:FL is the main player I doubt in that proposal.
Nabakov and Fishy, I have no idea about... so I'll probably be voting Yes on this.
Wow, I'm really not understanding you at all. Are you accepting it because you think there's no scum, or more than 1 scum?

And I just
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ortolan wrote:I have found FL scummy and if we sent the three that she's proposed in I would expect her to defect.
How about we don't discuss scum strategy, huh? I mean, everyone still thinks I'm scum because I made a little neutral comment a while back, but how the heck are we supposed to interpret this? I am certainly not accepting this proposal after you just told FL to sabotage and any other scum that might be on the proposal to not.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:35 am

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Crazy (268) wrote:I am certainly not accepting this proposal after you just told FL to sabotage and any other scum that might be on the proposal to not.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:18 am

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ortolan wrote:Well, actually, considering she's pretty much been written off as scum by quite a few people already I see little reason for her not to get in a sabotage and practically confirm herself as scum. Then we still need to work out who the other three scum are anyway, plus she wouldn't really be demonstrating something we didn't already know.
You have a point. Sending this proposal in is probably neutral rather than good for her scumminess.

I'll still be voting yes- I'm not expecting to get the perfect ticket out of today, and my townie reads numbers 1, 2 and 4 is a pretty good shot.

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I really don't get where the FL obvscum contingent is coming from. As far as I can see, it's all based on one irrelevant question she asked.

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Crazy wrote:I am certainly not accepting this proposal after you just told FL to sabotage and any other scum that might be on the proposal to not.
Totally incoherent. If FL is scum, you can be next to certain she is the only scum on the proposal. Quite simply, why put another on?

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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:48 am

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Wow O.K., ortolan and FL are scum. Vote NO.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:33 pm

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I'll probably vote yes because it's a reasonable proposal and because this day needs to end already.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:12 pm

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Fish (270) wrote:I really don't get where the FL obvscum contingent is coming from. As far as I can see, it's all based on one irrelevant question she asked.
It was all the stuff about her claiming people were scummy early in the game for "ruining" her questions about scum talking and such. That and her seeming lack of confidence in the fact she herself is town.
ABR (271) wrote:Wow O.K., ortolan and FL are scum. Vote NO.
Yay. FORBIDDANLIGHT YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY DEFECT.
veerus (272) wrote:I'll probably vote yes because it's a reasonable proposal and because this day needs to end already.
Scummy. The day ending with one sabotage which pretty much proves fl is scum, which we already know, gets the rebels no closer to their win-con.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:16 pm

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Fishy wrote:Totally incoherent. If FL is scum, you can be next to certain she is the only scum on the proposal. Quite simply, why put another on?
There's always WIFOM.
veerus wrote:I'll probably vote yes because it's a reasonable proposal and because this day needs to end already.
Err, I'm guessing you didn't read? We absolutely can't risk this proposal going through.
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