lewarcher82 wrote:I expected the dice-roll rules to be included in all claims. Perhaps I am missing sumthin, but I still dunno how many votes does Exce get.
Anyway, I keep thinking that Casey is probably town. It seems unlikely to me that such a weak voter can be last mafia: consider that Cam was extremly variable, he got 1 to 3 votes, apparently regardless of the number of players, therefore I would expect the last mafia to be a quite strong voter.
There's no such "quite strong voter" around, lewarcher82. Both Excedrin and my votes have been directly in keeping with our dice rolls. For all you know either Excedrin or I is lying, but you have no reason besides not trusting us to believe our roles are any more powerful than anyone else.
Besides, your idea that the second mafia would be a strong voter is, I think, in error.
Think about it:
If town had mislynched yesterday, we would be left with two mafia. If both of them were relatively strong roles, the game would be over. Mafia could control the lynch and After just two mislynches. Seems a little harsh to me. Lovers gets away with it but that's because in that game the town only need one lynch to win. It actually seems MORE likely that the second scum would be someone with a weak role than a strong role.
Also, mathcam's role seems CRAZY powerful for scum. I don't know exactly how mathcam's "Gets-More-Difficult-To-lynch-When-He-Hammers-Er" ability worked, but a mafia role that can make itself more difficult to lynch seems kind of ridiculous to me. It makes the endgame sneak up on the town a lot faster than it would otherwise.
Besides, think about yesterday. If mathcam had this supervoting scumbuddy, why wouldn't he hammer le Chat? That would send him into a situation with two mafia and two town where one of the mafia was more difficult to lynch and the other mafia was a strong voter. Those are some really good mafia odds.
I think setup speculation makes Casey look more scummy, not less. And, conveniently for me, my view of the setup matches exactly with my reads on people.