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It took 5 hours for the PL to happen. More than enough time for scum and their buddies to huddle up in their daytalk QT.

Guderian, mothrax, Baby Spice, Magua

Voters after Andriysteria.

@ inHim: Good call. I'm not sure though. Which is why I would have lynched Magua after vezok if vezok flipped scum. HRM

'Andriysteria". lol

Active since start of game, yet to post here:
AGar
Nachomamma8

Not around at all:
Furcolow
singersigner
Empking

Milling about during the push:
Andrius
Kitoari
AGM
Equinox
those voters

WELL LOOK AT THE TIMING OF THIS MOFO:
RayFrost


All in all, nothing stands out besides my thinking that we can possibly clear a big chunk of people if we find a scum in the "milling about" section.

Phew. Just read through 11 pages again.

Having trouble deciding whether Guderian's frustration is town-anger or scum-anger (but it is genuine, though). Will sleep on this. Opinions and stuff welcome.

I still like my vote on Kitoari, even if it's not a very popular wagon at the moment.

Regarding the scum-NK-during-quicklynch thing: My list is similar to Nixon's 253. I have a feeling the Rhinox kill was based purely on reputation, most likely from someone with first-hand experience (hence my question right after the lynch), so I'll look into that tomorrow.

Before I forget:

Happy birthday, Amished!

inHim, does "those voters" mean myself and the other three??

InHim wrote:All in all, nothing stands out besides my thinking that we can possibly clear a big chunk of people if we find a scum in the "milling about" section.

AGM, and Fate, called for the policy, but Kit linked to the game after questioning Fate about the hate.
After reading that end game I can understand it. (Hence my voting) AGM feels genuine, and I think Kit does too.

Andy called for the quick lynch, citing policy/hate and getting mana for the Seraphs. Must admit at first I thought this was a good call. Then I went and re-lookd at Holy Orders and some of the early scum seraph actions.

Did a full battery lynch help the light or the dark more?

Mothrax and Magua. Mothrax also mentions quicklynching. Magua seems town, and then his little dustup with Equinox seems town.

Don't know what to make of Gud. Scum voting after Andy seems risky, reguardless of Andy's alignment. Reporter stuff was annoying as all get out



I think the full battery lynch helped the dark side more, which means:

I think Andy could be scummy for calling for the quick lynch for mana, but then as a scum move it's a bit of a "look at me" move too.
Mothrax I believe echoed Andy's sentiment, but in a more understated way. Scum following an idea but trying not to be noticed imo.

^^terrible post

< agrees with Jack.

BabySpice wrote:I think the full battery lynch helped the dark side more,

This requires explanation.

Vas is onto something.
Because it helps town more.
<3 Vuvuzela

VasudeVa wrote:

BabySpice wrote:I think the full battery lynch helped the dark side more,

This requires explanation.

Andrius wrote:Vas is onto something.
Because it helps town more.
<3 Vuvuzela

Yeah I would have thought so too, but then I re-read bits of HO and noticed that one of the first things the dark Seraph did was spend a lot of mana combining two seperate scum groups and it occured to me, what if it's a similar set-up here.

I also noticed that the dark abilities cost more than the light ones and again wondered if it was the same here.

Basically I think we just gave a heap of mana to the person who could use it the most.

Aaaand I'm back. Gonna catch up from when I last posted and get back to you guys.

Up to page 8:

Equi/Inhim/Magua/Fate/Andrius all read town to me. Of them, equi is the strongest town read (meta frm gme), and the list is in order of read strength.

Guderian looks more like newbie town that's trying to deal with fate while having distaste for fate's style less than scum in the Gud v Fate.

Done reading:

Babyspice looks bad but doesn't smell bad yet. The post reads more like IIoA to me, but I'm not sure on the alignment tell for that. Anybody got meta here? I would not be surprised if kito (sheeple) / mothrax / babyspice were scum (together or otherwise), but I feel strongest regarding mothrax.

Kito reads like sheep to me, currently leaning scum there but it's definitely not solid. Let's sheer the wool of this sheep to see the skin, shall we? Kito - present a case on your highest two scum reads and inform us as to your highest town read with reasoning.

Mothrax is an issue for me. I have yet to find his posts to be particularly good - his posts regarding gud just seem like convenience attacks rather than any real conviction. His case is a stretch at move - he's saying that gud is scum for feeling something is scummy that have explained as meta. This is just terrible reasoning that looks like a veneer used to cover the fact he's going with the popular target.

Babyspice's post had analysis only in the whole "did the QL help scum or town more" - the rest was just worthless information, and the vote was not backed up, and there is no apparent reasoning for it. I'm going to reserve judgment for now. What is your reasoning for voting mothrax? How is that good enough to choose him over someone that is uncertain for you (gud)?

Oh, whoops. Forgot my vote.



Oh yeah, and I forgot to add this too. What's this about timing?

Frosty.

Timing and sneaky I suppose.
Gud's posts tend to make me uncertain about him, but for a scum to vote after Andy's call to arms (#24) well it just seems like the wrong time. Whereas Mothrax's vote, and the comment in that vote post, make me think he's trying to push the speed lynch but in a subtle way and given my feeling that it helped the scum more than the rest of us, that's scummy.

Timing and sneaky? What? People need to explain this stuff to me. I'm not getting it.

Mini Vote Count (brought to you by OhGodMyLife):
Guderian (L-4) ~ inHimshallibe, Andrius, Kitoari, mothrax, Jack, VasudeVa
Jack (L-8) ~ Guderian, Magua
mothrax (L-8) ~ Baby Spice, RayFrost
Kitoari (L-9) ~ Equinox


AGar, AlmasterGM, Empking, Fate, Furcolow, Katsuki, Nachomamma8, singersigner,

RayFrost wrote: Kito - present a case on your highest two scum reads and inform us as to your highest town read with reasoning.

I'll do this sometime today. I'm running out to the doctor soon so no real time to assemble anything.

Fate wrote:words

uuuuugggghhhhhhh

I might drum up a response later but about 90% of it relies on fate being a psychic with the ability to see my hypothetical scum QT.

wtf D2 already????? lol.

*Goes to read first 11 pages to see wth is going on*

*figures it out*

Ouchies

gg Rhinox

Eek. IoA. Do not want.

Baby Spice wrote:Scum voting after Andy seems risky, reguardless of Andy's alignment.

I don't follow. Can you elaborate on this, please?

I like 263.

What?

I didn't even had time to post.

gg vezok