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So MoI, don't kill me tonight please because I'm a paper role. I don't want to elaborate further.

POWER role dammit

No time/energy to post content atm. SK still scum, etc. Power role claim doesn't change that. Codfish still probably town, but there are worse execution targets. Will reply to stuff later.

You think Cod is town? lol

implosion, in your first post, you say this:

implosion wrote:SK is pinging scumdar. One of him/codfish is scum.

and then proceed to attack SleepyKrew. Why the dichotomy? And is this still your reasoning for believing Codfish to be town?


SleepyKrew, you never did answer my question:

ChaosOmega wrote:Do you think vezokpiraka is a VI, scummy, or both?

That was never my reasoning for codfish to be town, there was a post he made that gave me townvibes (I mentioned which one it was, don't feel like looking). The dichotomy wasn't really intended to be a strong dichotomy. It was basically at that point in reading I found them both scummy, but they were unlikely to be scum together because of the "teams" that were being created (albeit weakly).

Everyone should post top two scum reads.

Vezok 1-cod 2-chaos omega

1 - Cod
2 - SK

Chaos, I think vezok will be vezok (VI), which is why I'm rethinking my scumread on him.

Cod, Quil, implosion, kill any of them. Though I think consensus is Cod.

SleepyKrew wrote:Chaos, I think vezok will be vezok (VI), which is why I'm rethinking my scumread on him.

Cod, Quil, implosion, kill any of them. Though I think consensus is Cod.

I'm not killing anyone until we decide night executioner and everyone chimes in.

Ok, now that Vezok has been elected I’d suggest we supply a list of Executions we would support to help Vezok make his decision

– Captain, Sleepy, Cod, havingfitz

– You missed my question in post 233. Please address in your next post.

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havingfitz wrote:yer goooood.

Oh look, a sarcastic dismissive response in lieu of contributing or showing how my assessments don’t indicate you are a good scum candidate.

[REDACTED] tell detected.

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Sleepy wrote:2. Maybe it's a reactiontesting gambit MoI. Maybe...
3. You are correct, I do it as any alignment. I don't see how they hurt?

If you have to say ‘It’s a reaction test’ more than once or twice in a game then you are doing it wrong.

It hurts because blatant use of buzz-words that don’t really apply directly undermines the credibility of the whole post.

If you are scum feel free to continue because scum undermining their own credibility is fine with me. If you are Town then you are playing against your Win-Con doing so.

Sleepy wrote:So MoI, don't kill me tonight please because I'm a paper role. I really don't want to elaborate further.

So your appeal is that you are a Power Role. I’d make some sarcastic comment about you not claiming a Town Power Role but it is a given that you are claiming to be Town.

What makes you think that Vezok will not end up killing you? Its possible and I wouldn’t object to

MagnaofIllusion wrote:

MOD – I’ll be V/LA from 4pm EST today until Monday morning for my usual weekend family duties

Also, how is the Kondi replacement search coming?

Ok, now that Vezok has been elected I’d suggest we supply a list of Executions we would support to help Vezok make his decision

I will support Executions of (in descending order)

– Captain, Sleepy, Cod, havingfitz

@implosion

– You missed my question in post 233. Please address in your next post.

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havingfitz wrote:yer goooood.

Oh look, a sarcastic dismissive response in lieu of contributing or showing how my assessments don’t indicate you are a good scum candidate.

[REDACTED] tell detected.

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Sleepy wrote:2. Maybe it's a reactiontesting gambit MoI. Maybe...
3. You are correct, I do it as any alignment. I don't see how they hurt?

If you have to say ‘It’s a reaction test’ more than once or twice in a game then you are doing it wrong.

It hurts because blatant use of buzz-words that don’t really apply directly undermines the credibility of the whole post.

If you are scum feel free to continue because scum undermining their own credibility is fine with me. If you are Town then you are playing against your Win-Con doing so.

Sleepy wrote:So MoI, don't kill me tonight please because I'm a paper role. I really don't want to elaborate further.

So your appeal is that you are a Power Role. I’d make some sarcastic comment about you not claiming a Town Power Role but it is a given that you are claiming to be Town.

What makes you think that Vezok will not end up killing you? Its possible and I wouldn’t object to

mallowgeno wrote:

Noted.

Kondi is supposed to come back monday from a vacation I believe. If he doesn't post then though I will replace him

SleepyKrew wrote:Town consensus is mainly Cod. Quil also wants Cod dead. So what's wrong with electing Quil? If he kills someone other than Cod, then LaL his ass.
Also, you're fine with electing Magna at night, even though according to you he doesn't want to be elected? And you want the executioner to listen to town consensus, when Magna doesn't want to? BUZZWORD

I would rather elect someone I trust than Quilford. The night executioner wouldn't have to listen to town consensus. That's why I want magna to be the night executioner rather than the day executioner.

Vezok wrote:Everyone should post top two scum reads

1.Quilford
2.Chaos
3.Cod

before I go

1) Cod
2) Quil - Still not 100% sure on him, I have weakened my suspicion and he is no longer no1. BUT I am still not happy with his play.

1) Codfish "Fishy" Codfish
2) Don't really have all that concrete a second read, getting odd vibes from implosion though

MoI wrote:If you have any issues with this speak up now. I’ll direct you to Cyclical Experiment X01 if you have issues with me laying out a plan in this manner.

So yeah, Magna is town. His play here does actually resemble his cyclic play (to an extent) and he did take a leading role in that game in terms of crafting a plan. The plan is also definitely something we should be doing.

MoI wrote:I’m having a very hard time reconciling the bolded in the first quote with the second quote. Both these quotes came from the same post. Explain please!

That actually is a bit odd... I don't think those two quotes were from the same train of thought. I guess it really isn't 100% town motivated if scum have a choice in the executioner and fosses are open.

Zang wrote:Only as much as they do in a normal mafia game and they can't influence it nearly as much as they can if scum is elected as executioner.

Well the first step in pretty much ANY plan is going to be getting someone who is probably town elected, for hopefully obvious reasons. The idea is that it would be like a vig shot from an unconfirmed-alignment vig who would then have to justify who they shot.

Zang wrote:But anything we learn about the executioner's alignment is just WIFOM and just because it is 100% town motivated, it doesn't make it any more likely that he would hit scum as if the majority was allowed to decide.

Wifom? :\ you can honesty call anything in the entire scope of the game of mafia WIFOM by that logic. Anything we learn by people's speech is just wifom. Anything we learn from peoples' votes is just wifom. Again, it would be like an informed vig that would have to justify their shot. It really isn't, in any way shape or form, wifom more than any other part of the game of mafia.

Zang wrote:To me though, the cons of the second plan outweigh the cons of the first plan.

Which is why we try hard to elect someone who is town. Again, I at least personally am better at townhunting than scumhunting.

Top scumread is SK, second might be CC. I don't really have a strong second, but CC is probably it if I have to choose someone. I have a fair number of townreads.

MoI wrote:@implosion – You missed my question in post 233. Please address in your next post.

I never actually missed it, I just didn't have the time/energy then to respond to you or Zang.

@fatlikepig: what do you mean by odd vibes?

Imposion- Can you please post who you want to be executed?

I did, it was near the end of my last post:

Top scumread is SK, second might be CC. I don't really have a strong second, but CC is probably it if I have to choose someone. I have a fair number of townreads.

Sorry, I didn't see that.

Zang wrote:

Vezok wrote:Everyone should post top two scum reads

1.Quilford
2.Chaos
3.Cod

Ignoring you listing me as your top scum read which is based on reasoning I don't think you even understand yourself (so kindly just sum up your case on me in bullet points or something), I don't get why you've put Chaos at 2 over Cod considering the only thing you bring up against Chaos in your ISO is that he needs to post more, iirc and you said my case on Codfish was "especially good" or something

so I get the feeling that you're trying to appease Vezok by putting Chaos at 2 and I can definitely see you being Cod's buddy

Ok.

Cod should be it I see.

fatlikeabig get my third scum read. Good job.

Why don't you have a second scum read? You questioned me before. You don't consider me scum anymore?