Micro 179 - Mainstream Mini Mafia III [CULT WIN AGAIN]

[ArcAngel9]

as long as the execution doesn't ends the day.. night 1 is an advantage to CL
wait for mod to confirm that.

[Who]

Role PM was specific, the day ends with the execution.

[TheIrishPope]

I am very upset (read: pissed) with Angel not reading over the thread...

[ArcAngel9]

Read it again...or you guys reading it incorrectly or i have miss stated it.

What i said..that you can execute after confirming with MOD that if your execution would just reset the VC or moves to night 1?
If the games to night 1, this game is lost!!!!

[ArcAngel9]

Is that so hard to understand?

[Doc Holliday]

What is hard to understand is how you expect anyone to believe you're Town when you haven't done anything productive, instead choosing to frantically defend yourself and OMGUS onto me

Seriously. You made zero effort all game at making logical deductions, finding Townreads to clear, or advancing cases against scum reads the closest you came was wildly pointing back at me, then inexplicably voting for Who

[ArcAngel9]

and what exactly you have done so far? Except calling me scum and leaving no room to suspect other possibilities?
and btw.if i am truly omgusin'g you my vote should have been on you...last time i see my vote is on who.

[Who]

Role PM was specific, the day ends with the execution.

Angel, kindly tell me what this post says.

[Doc Holliday]

Angel, I've worked up dossiers of

each

player, systematically establishing whether they were Town or still suspect. Early on, I recognized TIP as new Town, then Candillan as Town because of his behavior. Later, I confirmed my Town suspicion of Candillan with his functional counterclaim of you, which scum simply would

not

have done. Finally, Who has a confirmable role that would

not

have been added to Cult Leader. Given that he will be expected to confirm it, and refusal or failure to do so would lead to him being rapid-lynched, it's not something scum would do. Ergo, Town.

Given all of that, the only option from my perspective is Angel, and the only option from any other perspective is {Angel, Doc}. Given the way in which I've comported myself, and the way you've acted, it's an easy choice.

Finally, you really

haven't

done anything but OMGUS me and, lately, when that didn't work, throw a random, unjustified vote on Who.

Who can't confirm his role yet because someone needs to be lynched in order to demonstrate the power. Again, that's not something scum would claim, ever, as it may be easily disproved.

[ArcAngel9]

Role PM was specific, the day ends with the execution.

Angel, kindly tell me what this post says.

AGAIN, I needed to hear this from MOD not you. so hang on

MOD, can you confirm if any execution or Day kill will end the day 1? result to night 1?

[Who]

CHKFLIP’s MAFIA DO’s + DO NOT’s

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@MOD:

is the best way to get my attention re: anything.
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Do not ask about roles

, the setup, or if you should have received a PM.

[Doc Holliday]

Who, please execute. She's just flailing now, trying to muddle things by splitting hairs and arguing semantics.

[Candillan]

Okay, Pope's almost definitely town.
I'm still unsure as to whether the scum is Angel or Doc, because in another game I read, Gladiator was a day-use power. Meanwhile, I still see almost nothing Angel's doing wrong aside from misreading the thread.
Shrug, the case on her seems like an easy push for scum to make. Meanwhile, I still have no idea why Doc confirmed TIP so early. His actions weren't townie. How did that make him town?
I'd prefer we don't execute yet, actually.

[Doc Holliday]

New scum isn't as brash as TIP, nor as willing to check themselves, step back, and take a deep breath.

As for Gladiator being a day power, I thought it was. I looked it up after Angel insisted the roles weren't unique, and the wiki article calls it day-only power. I had no reason to check my role PM for confirmation of that fact until I looked up Chk's desired syntax. The role's kind of useless as night-only, ask me. Especially given cult mechanics

[TheIrishPope]

That's why it's "Mainstream"
I don't even know what to do. Candillan takes the conservative approach to wait it out and seems pretty sure of himself, but Doc is aggressively saying we should lynch Angel and he seems pretty sure of himself as well.
I have no fucking clue

[ArcAngel9]

Who, please execute. She's just flailing now, trying to muddle things by splitting hairs and arguing semantics.

Why are so impatient? seems way to fishy!!

[Who]

Okay, Pope's almost definitely town.
I'm still unsure as to whether the scum is Angel or Doc, because in another game I read, Gladiator was a day-use power. Meanwhile, I still see almost nothing Angel's doing wrong aside from misreading the thread.
Shrug, the case on her seems like an easy push for scum to make. Meanwhile, I still have no idea why Doc confirmed TIP so early. His actions weren't townie. How did that make him town?
I'd prefer we don't execute yet, actually.

I'm not executing while anyone besides the person I will execute objects, particularly not while the governor objects, even though I don't know whether or not the governor can stop the lynch.
However, if you prefer to delay the execution, on what grounds? Do you have any evidence against Doc besides the gladiator thing?

So far, the way I see it:
Angel: A really bad player whatever alignment, prejudice against bad people makes me think scum.
Doc: Probably town. Not entirely sure though, given how most of my ignoring his pushing for the quicklynch is based off of:

I shouldn't have it because I tend to get tunnel vision and declare people confTown/scum too quickly.

Is pre-emptive self-meta a scumtactic?
Candillan: If Candillan is scum, then that would make no sense. A mislynch is an almost guaranteed win for scum, and Candillan is preventing the lynch. The only reason to delay it for scum would be to change the lynch target to Pope, who has claimed Bus Driver, and who Candillan just said was town. There is no reason for scum to want Doc dead rather than Angel, unless they thought that Doc was lying and actually had a more powerful role. Even then though, it still wouldn't make much sense given how Doc sees Candillan as town.
Pope: Doc defends him well.

[TheIrishPope]

I am a bit hesitant on AA9's death myself. We have time still, so no worries.

Pope: Doc defends him well.

Wat

[Candillan]

I am a bit hesitant on AA9's death myself. We have time still, so no worries.

Pope: Doc defends him well.

Wat

^

[Candillan]

However, if you prefer to delay the execution, on what grounds? Do you have any evidence against Doc besides the gladiator thing?

On grounds of Doc being potential scum. For the record, my Role PM is the exact same wording as the one on the wiki, and I'm not sure about any of you, but it seems kinda odd that his wording would be different.

[Doc Holliday]

My urgency to lynch Angel is based entirely on the fact that the longer we give her, the more she is able to seed doubt, sow dissent, and weasel her way out. She's solidly caught, but given time, can make it through a day. That's how flailing works; survive at all costs by throwing suspicion everywhere and seeing what sticks

[TheIrishPope]

So I guess we're all waiting on chk

[Candillan]

Waiting on him for what?

[chkflip]

DAY ONE OPENING VOTE COUNT
1. ArcAngel9 (1) - Doc Holliday
2. Who (1) - ArcAngel9
3. TheIrishPope (0)
4. Doc Holliday (0)
5. Candillan (0)

I give pre-game and pre-D1 to ask role related questions; therefore, I will no longer answer them per my rules. Consult the wiki.

[ArcAngel9]

My urgency to lynch Angel is based entirely on the fact that the longer we give her, the more she is able to seed doubt, sow dissent, and weasel her way out. She's solidly caught, but given time, can make it through a day. That's how flailing works; survive at all costs by throwing suspicion everywhere and seeing what sticks

Seed doubt? seriously.. you now looked like you're worried that people here started seeing that your attacks on me being pointless.
Explain how i am solidly caught? What did i say that looked scummy? You said Candilian CC made me more scummy, remember if there is a CC claim there is 50-50 chance one of them could be scum, and how are you manage to say i am the solid scum but not raise a tiny bit of suspicion about Candilian? and moreover, Our roles are not similar, they are different so that's ideally not evean a counter claim. you twisted all that becuz your dumb brain didnt' see the difference..

Who, I need you to bloody shut up your mouth for a bit. Yes, you may be executioner and you want to execute me. If so, I need you to wait as long as it is possible to see through things clearly. Stop being a dumb ass.

And again I need to confirm things with MOd, its not related to role information its about day and night activity and he didn't say that we can't ask how day and night works.

Mod, Tell us if someone dies on Day 1 but not through a lynch, Will the day pushes to night or Day 1 VCA resets?