as long as the execution doesn't ends the day.. night 1 is an advantage to CL
wait for mod to confirm that.
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:54 pm
by Who
In post 246, Who wrote:Role PM was specific, the day ends with the execution.
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:57 pm
by TheIrishPope
I am very upset (read: pissed) with Angel not reading over the thread...
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:22 pm
by ArcAngel9
Read it again...or you guys reading it incorrectly or i have miss stated it.
What i said..that you can execute after confirming with MOD that if your execution would just reset the VC or moves to night 1?
If the games to night 1, this game is lost!!!!
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:22 pm
by ArcAngel9
Is that so hard to understand?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:49 pm
by Doc Holliday
What is hard to understand is how you expect anyone to believe you're Town when you haven't done anything productive, instead choosing to frantically defend yourself and OMGUS onto me
Seriously. You made zero effort all game at making logical deductions, finding Townreads to clear, or advancing cases against scum reads the closest you came was wildly pointing back at me, then inexplicably voting for Who
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:19 pm
by ArcAngel9
and what exactly you have done so far? Except calling me scum and leaving no room to suspect other possibilities?
and btw.if i am truly omgusin'g you my vote should have been on you...last time i see my vote is on who.
In post 246, Who wrote:Role PM was specific, the day ends with the execution.
Angel, kindly tell me what this post says.
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:15 am
by Doc Holliday
Angel, I've worked up dossiers of
each
player, systematically establishing whether they were Town or still suspect. Early on, I recognized TIP as new Town, then Candillan as Town because of his behavior. Later, I confirmed my Town suspicion of Candillan with his functional counterclaim of you, which scum simply would
not
have done. Finally, Who has a confirmable role that would
not
have been added to Cult Leader. Given that he will be expected to confirm it, and refusal or failure to do so would lead to him being rapid-lynched, it's not something scum would do. Ergo, Town.
Given all of that, the only option from my perspective is Angel, and the only option from any other perspective is {Angel, Doc}. Given the way in which I've comported myself, and the way you've acted, it's an easy choice.
Finally, you really
haven't
done anything but OMGUS me and, lately, when that didn't work, throw a random, unjustified vote on Who.
Who can't confirm his role yet because someone needs to be lynched in order to demonstrate the power. Again, that's not something scum would claim, ever, as it may be easily disproved.
is the best way to get my attention re: anything.
-
Do not ask about roles
, the setup, or if you should have received a PM.
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:00 am
by Doc Holliday
Who, please execute. She's just flailing now, trying to muddle things by splitting hairs and arguing semantics.
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 6:44 am
by Candillan
Okay, Pope's almost definitely town.
I'm still unsure as to whether the scum is Angel or Doc, because in another game I read, Gladiator was a day-use power. Meanwhile, I still see almost nothing Angel's doing wrong aside from misreading the thread.
Shrug, the case on her seems like an easy push for scum to make. Meanwhile, I still have no idea why Doc confirmed TIP so early. His actions weren't townie. How did that make him town?
I'd prefer we don't execute yet, actually.
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:23 am
by Doc Holliday
New scum isn't as brash as TIP, nor as willing to check themselves, step back, and take a deep breath.
As for Gladiator being a day power, I thought it was. I looked it up after Angel insisted the roles weren't unique, and the wiki article calls it day-only power. I had no reason to check my role PM for confirmation of that fact until I looked up Chk's desired syntax. The role's kind of useless as night-only, ask me. Especially given cult mechanics
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:29 am
by TheIrishPope
That's why it's "Mainstream"
I don't even know what to do. Candillan takes the conservative approach to wait it out and seems pretty sure of himself, but Doc is aggressively saying we should lynch Angel and he seems pretty sure of himself as well.
I have no fucking clue
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:40 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 261, Doc Holliday wrote:Who, please execute. She's just flailing now, trying to muddle things by splitting hairs and arguing semantics.
Why are so impatient? seems way to fishy!!
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:25 pm
by Who
In post 262, Candillan wrote:Okay, Pope's almost definitely town.
I'm still unsure as to whether the scum is Angel or Doc, because in another game I read, Gladiator was a day-use power. Meanwhile, I still see almost nothing Angel's doing wrong aside from misreading the thread.
Shrug, the case on her seems like an easy push for scum to make. Meanwhile, I still have no idea why Doc confirmed TIP so early. His actions weren't townie. How did that make him town?
I'd prefer we don't execute yet, actually.
I'm not executing while anyone besides the person I will execute objects, particularly not while the governor objects, even though I don't know whether or not the governor can stop the lynch.
However, if you prefer to delay the execution, on what grounds? Do you have any evidence against Doc besides the gladiator thing?
So far, the way I see it:
Angel: A really bad player whatever alignment, prejudice against bad people makes me think scum.
Doc: Probably town. Not entirely sure though, given how most of my ignoring his pushing for the quicklynch is based off of:
In post 19, Doc Holliday wrote:I shouldn't have it because I tend to get tunnel vision and declare people confTown/scum too quickly.
Is pre-emptive self-meta a scumtactic?
Candillan: If Candillan is scum, then that would make no sense. A mislynch is an almost guaranteed win for scum, and Candillan is preventing the lynch. The only reason to delay it for scum would be to change the lynch target to Pope, who has claimed Bus Driver, and who Candillan just said was town. There is no reason for scum to want Doc dead rather than Angel, unless they thought that Doc was lying and actually had a more powerful role. Even then though, it still wouldn't make much sense given how Doc sees Candillan as town.
Pope: Doc defends him well.
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:31 pm
by TheIrishPope
I am a bit hesitant on AA9's death myself. We have time still, so no worries.
In post 266, Who wrote:However, if you prefer to delay the execution, on what grounds? Do you have any evidence against Doc besides the gladiator thing?
On grounds of Doc being potential scum. For the record, my Role PM is the exact same wording as the one on the wiki, and I'm not sure about any of you, but it seems kinda odd that his wording would be different.
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:04 pm
by Doc Holliday
My urgency to lynch Angel is based entirely on the fact that the longer we give her, the more she is able to seed doubt, sow dissent, and weasel her way out. She's solidly caught, but given time, can make it through a day. That's how flailing works; survive at all costs by throwing suspicion everywhere and seeing what sticks
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 4:49 pm
by TheIrishPope
So I guess we're all waiting on chk
Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 8:06 pm
by Candillan
Waiting on him for what?
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 5:10 am
by chkflip
I give pre-game and pre-D1 to ask role related questions; therefore, I will no longer answer them per my rules. Consult the wiki.
Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:20 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 270, Doc Holliday wrote:My urgency to lynch Angel is based entirely on the fact that the longer we give her, the more she is able to seed doubt, sow dissent, and weasel her way out. She's solidly caught, but given time, can make it through a day. That's how flailing works; survive at all costs by throwing suspicion everywhere and seeing what sticks
Seed doubt? seriously.. you now looked like you're worried that people here started seeing that your attacks on me being pointless.
Explain how i am solidly caught? What did i say that looked scummy? You said Candilian CC made me more scummy, remember if there is a CC claim there is 50-50 chance one of them could be scum, and how are you manage to say i am the solid scum but not raise a tiny bit of suspicion about Candilian? and moreover, Our roles are not similar, they are different so that's ideally not evean a counter claim. you twisted all that becuz your dumb brain didnt' see the difference..
Who, I need you to bloody shut up your mouth for a bit. Yes, you may be executioner and you want to execute me. If so, I need you to wait as long as it is possible to see through things clearly. Stop being a dumb ass.
And again I need to confirm things with MOd, its not related to role information its about day and night activity and he didn't say that we can't ask how day and night works.
Mod, Tell us if someone dies on Day 1 but not through a lynch, Will the day pushes to night or Day 1 VCA resets?
