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Hey everybody. I'll get to reading soon.

Did crimml somehow pick a post restriction of can only promise to re-read the game once then get replaced?

I'll just post my thoughts as I read.

In post 24, Stryker wrote:

In post 3, Jennifer wrote:

DRAFT ORDER:

Siveure DtTrikyp: 9002

Why would we take you seriously?

Why would town not risk to take #1 and try to go for a useful town pr or deny a powerful scum pr?

I don't like this. It doesn't point to him being either alignment. He would want a PR as both town and scum.

In post 29, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:Am I allowed to quote what I sent to the moderator here?
Because I picked 1 to deny any scum who thought they were being clever. I figured the risk of scum getting first pick is too great.

Really don't like this, but I think he's town because of it.

Townread on Siv. I like his research of the other PYPs.

I don't really agree with Alabaska's vote on Siv but still he seems town.

I don't know what to make of Mutley's "I'm still in RVS because I want to be" nonsense.

In post 78, Mutleyddmc wrote:Do it four and I will answer

I did laugh here.

I like pecan's 84. Why did you wait to post that?

Belisarius is pinging my gut.

Sakura Hana is just a nonentity to me. I feel like I'm reading nothing when I read her posts and forget about her until the next time she posts.

Deckard's 159 is something I see scum do a lot. Unprompted, he churns out a bucket o' nulls read list that doesn't take much effort and looks like he is contributing. None of his reads are really original at all.

In post 168, Xdaamno wrote:Hey folks. Apologies for the lack of posting.

Alabaska's politeness makes him an interesting read. Any recent previous games you can link me to, Al?

VOTE: pieceofpecanpie
for the following reasons:

In post 65, pieceofpecanpie wrote:

In post 63, Belisarius wrote:Sure, if there's a reason for it besides "picking at random from amongst the top five"

If there's no actual reason, it's still RVS.

I have an actual reason for voting Stryker.

Some rudimentary PoE is only part of that.

Nobody genuinely uses PoE this early. It's plausible for town to make up reasons, but scum are more likely to.

In post 58, pieceofpecanpie wrote:Alabaska actually raises a decent point. Choosing a number over 9000 doesn't clear you. Yeah, it doesn't implicate you either, like Siv pointed out in #54, but the defensiveness is interesting.

"actually raises a decent point" is mild scummy language.

In post 110, pieceofpecanpie wrote:So you lied?

Are you planning to keep this up all game?

Leading question.

I completely disagree with this. Did you just ignore everything else he did that made him look town?

Actually surprised at Mutley's slight push on Deckard. And I like it.

What the hell is a driver tell?

201 by Smudger is a slight improvement of Deckard, but giving a list of complete reads is something that bothers me. If you are town, it gives scum a roadmap as to who they should NK and who they can mislynch.

I'm thinking Beli town for his "driver tells" and such because he's only wasting his own time by using them and it's not like he's getting other people to use them and waste their time too. I think he's trying.
Unless someone has meta that he's a trolling/tryhard scum?

Alright as much as I HATE all player reads lists, 236 by Yesterday is beautiful and I agree with it 100%. Especially about Troubles asking to quote his PM to the mod, something no one else besides me picked up on.

Alrighty that's about it.

Sakura Hana wrote:Well I really can't defend much against that, it is true that i've barely done any scumhunting this game, oh well, if you ask me the only semi-suspicious person i got is Bellisarious, but mostly because his whole post of nothing that he made, however i did say i would put that aside, so either i sux at finding scum or scum this game is too good at hiding in between town.

I think this post explains everything.

VOTE: Sakura Hana

Why are you surprised by my push on deckard?

Scum are Sakura, Cade slot and deckard with smudger a possibilty

Because you've been useless

Smudger/sakura/deckard is a little weird just b/c 4/5/6.

I care little for number analysis

In post 257, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Smudger/sakura/deckard is a little weird just b/c 4/5/6.

Because I'm town (not like me saying it will make you guys believe it but w/e).
I was already disengaged from this game and now i feel even less motivated to do anything because i have a feeling everything i say will just make my hole just deeper so i might as well not say anything and die in peace, I already tried when I was scum once and it didn't work, now anything I do will just be fakescumhunting or mudslinging or just deflecting or w/e so yeah, just kill me, and good luck Town.

You have three votes on you. You're not dead.

But crumpling under pressure like that is making me more confident in my read.

Yet another thing that yesterday missed is the fact that on my scum game i was also asking questions (even tho i knew everyone's alignment) and at least pretending to scum hunt, here i'm doing nothing, I was considering replacing out, but now it will just put whoever replaces me in a bad predicament so i'll just let you guys lynch town since... as predicted... everything i'm saying is just digging my hole deeper! who would have thought

Wow that is the craziest defence ever.

Still lynch it.

That is a defense? I thought I was giving up

"I'm not doing anything and when I was scum I did more than I did now."

That defence.

Oh that? I'm only using meta defense since meta was used to atk me, on the plus side, when i die then people wont be able to use that meta against me anymore, yay!

back from v/la, exhausted from flights and laguardia airport in general, will post massive stuff tomorrow if that is cool with everyone

Just nipping in to say...

In post 254, Elyse wrote:Why would we take you seriously?

In post 254, Elyse wrote:I don't know what to make of Mutley's (...) nonsense.

In post 254, Elyse wrote:(...)I HATE all player reads lists

Try and keep it chill, the game is just for entertainment

Wow!

First quote isn't even Elyse's words.

Second quote is dressed up to look worse.

Third quote is completely out of context.

VOTE: Xdaamno

That kind of selective smearing just reeks.

Oh yeah. I messed up on the first quote. Was I trying to trick you...?

Incidentally, I was discussing a particular scumtell with my friend yesterday. My opinion is that things which could be as scummy, but aren't really, are jumped on by scum more often. Now, whether or not my post was objectionable, I hope it's obvious that a) it was intended as an out-of-game aside, nothing to do with scumhunting or trying to implicate Elyse - what I said is NOT a scumtell on Elyse, and b) I'm a slightly better player than to try and misquote somebody else as Elyse presuming nobody will notice.

My original PBPA of pecan had a lot more posts I found scummy, so I'll review those later if I have time.

(shiiiiiiit so busy)

Also, the second quote is not 'dressed up', and the third is not made to 'look worse', since I'm not , just commenting on tone of voice. Silly and sloppy analyses are scummy.

I really like Elyse's replace in post - seems to be on a similar wavelength to me on a lot of things and the focus on the "can I quote the PM" thing feels really town - think scum would be attempting to downplay that post. I think she's wrong on the "Reads list are bad" theory though but that's playerstyle related rather than alignment related (Don't want to go into this too much since it's not really super game related but reads list are a good thing if they're attached with reasoning. Even if it gives scum a 'road map of who to shoot' it's better than refraining from outting reads and thoughts and dying with them which is useless and reading other peoples reasoning on their reads allows reassessment on the reads yourself while allowing you to get a better idea of what the person who posted the reads is thinking ultimately making them easier to read. In other words the amount of gain from it way overpowers the negative).

Bleh, I really don't like PPP's lack of commenting on my replace in given that I've replaced who was his big scum-read, the switch without saying "Okay, yeah I was wrong on X" or anything of the sort feels like leaving the option to move back at a later time and dislike the complete ignorance of the Sakura case and her reaction.

That said Sakura, if you're town don't just do the "Well I give up lynch me" shit. If you're town convince me I'm wrong, read back state your thoughts and reads (It's not possible to have zero thoughts on a game even if you don't understand numbers related discussion) and try and let me understand your thought process.

Going to cook some dinner and get some study out of the way then I'll get around to re-reading the nullish players.

This game needs a serious burst of activity from a lot of players though.

If I follow you onto sakura, we get deckard tomorrow!

or cade