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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:52 pm
by enomis
I guess its the same feeling in polygamy game then. What you think about Elyse?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:56 pm
by Majiffy
In post 246, enomis wrote:This is quite the same meta as the polygamy game to me though.
It's been a few months since I've played a game with him, so it may not necessarily be the
first
game he's done it in. Just the first I've seen.
In post 247, Amrun wrote:In what way, Majiffy?

And if we could all vote yes or no to proceed with the nomination plan, please?
Attitude is largely the same but he's more dodgy with questions, in the kind of "I'm going to sit back and let this stew for a while" way, rather than the "I really don't want to answer any questions" kind of way. Looks like he's trying to play in the same way I usually do when I'm dealing with difficult players to get a read on. Mollie will know what I'm talking about here.

I think the nomination thing sounds nice on paper but I don't think it's going to be nearly as pro-town or useful as it is being made out.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:06 pm
by pirate mollie
I am leaning unsure/town. she isn't jumpy, she is responsive not reactive but responsive in a way that seems natural and genuine. she isn't misstepping at all and is putting herself in convos where she easily could do so. I am not getting her town read on dance guy or me, that is mebbe the only thing that is keeping her out of my town pile.

what do you think of ap cos my townreads are scumreading him and I am not seeing it. he is going for weird angles which reminds me of his posh game and he was town then. I remember it was the weird angles that made me town read him in that game and we clung to each other as if we were drowning (lol, which we were), we just couldn't sync up our reads.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:09 pm
by enomis
In post 252, pirate mollie wrote:I am leaning unsure/town. she isn't jumpy, she is responsive not reactive but responsive in a way that seems natural and genuine. she isn't misstepping at all and is putting herself in convos where she easily could do so. I am not getting her town read on dance guy or me, that is mebbe the only thing that is keeping her out of my town pile.

what do you think of ap cos my townreads are scumreading him and I am not seeing it. he is going for weird angles which reminds me of his posh game and he was town then. I remember it was the weird angles that made me town read him in that game and we clung to each other as if we were drowning (lol, which we were), we just couldn't sync up our reads.
Elyse seems to me to be asking useless questions and posting useless comments to blend in? Thats what she looks like to me. Her reads are also... Waiting for her to explain.

Ap i am not so sure right now. This is my first time playing with him. Trying to figure him out.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:17 pm
by Amrun
Talk about the plan, Majiffy. What is your alternative? Do you have any improvements?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:22 pm
by pirate mollie
I don't see her blending in at all. she isn't taking easily defensible stances I don't think. what do you mean?

also you don't have to read the games I linked you, you could just iso wis in those games

eta: that was to eno

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:25 pm
by Elyse
My obvtown read on SD was a joke since he hasn't posted content.

Sorry I thought you guys would get that.

@enomis
I already said that I found it strange that Wisdom attacked Amrun with so much venom. If it wasn't serious it would lie more with the meta I had on him. But apparently his meta is different.

I don't like how you're making generalizations about me asking useless questions and posting useless comments. The only "useless" one I can think of is my joke read on SD.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:28 pm
by Majiffy
In post 254, Amrun wrote:Talk about the plan, Majiffy. What is your alternative? Do you have any improvements?
Shoot from the hip, remove as many possibilities for scum to just "slide in" to popular lynches. Force the issue, make them think on their feet. This is a game of reactions.
In post 255, pirate mollie wrote:I don't see her blending in at all. she isn't taking easily defensible stances I don't think. what do you mean?
She looks like she's
trying
to, though. It's been bugging me, as well.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:29 pm
by Elyse
Majiffy you read me as scum in every game so I'm not really surprised there but I don't see how I'm trying to blend in.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:30 pm
by enomis
@Elyse:
In post 77, Elyse wrote:Hi everyone!
In post 49, Wisdom wrote:Whatever

FoS: Amrun, since suggesting such things usually comes from scum going for cred.
Is this a serious FoS?
Which achieved nothing.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:31 pm
by Elyse
I asked the question to see if his play lined up with his meta.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:32 pm
by Majiffy
In post 258, Elyse wrote:Majiffy you read me as scum in every game so I'm not really surprised there but I don't see how I'm trying to blend in.
I haven't seen a flicker of original thought from you this game.

Also this is not true, I think there was a large game we played together where I was townreading you when everyone else was calling you scum.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:33 pm
by enomis
In post 260, Elyse wrote:I asked the question to see if his play lined up with his meta.
Not convinced.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:33 pm
by pirate mollie
In post 256, Elyse wrote:My obvtown read on SD was a joke since he hasn't posted content.

Sorry I thought you guys would get that.

@enomis
I already said that I found it strange that Wisdom attacked Amrun with so much venom. If it wasn't serious it would lie more with the meta I had on him. But apparently his meta is different.

I don't like how you're making generalizations about me asking useless questions and posting useless comments. The only "useless" one I can think of is my joke read on SD.
I didn't read it as a joke

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:34 pm
by Majiffy
I thought it was pretty obviously a joke. Not very funny, but it was there.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:37 pm
by Elyse
Oh yeah I forgot you were in that game. You were a hydra right?

And I have more than a flicker of original thought. I questioned Wisdom using meta, I pushed on Wisdom's response to Venmar, I explained why Wisdom is hard to read, I have a scumread on AP, and a townread on Mollie.

P-edit: Sorry I'm not very funny. :oops:

@enomis
I don't know what you want me to say. That's why I asked the question. Sorry if it doesn't fit with your scum lean on me or whatever you're conjuring up.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:53 pm
by Majiffy
All the important bits of the above were done by other people before you chimed in. So no, not seeing it.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:02 pm
by Elyse
No they weren't.

I'm going to bed.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:03 pm
by Majiffy
kbye

(yestheywere)

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:44 pm
by Wisdom
Apparently there won't be any game where I won't read some form of "omg not usual town Wisdom". Deal with it guys, I am different in every game.

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:52 pm
by Grimgroove
Catching up with this today! Sorry for the delay :)

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:18 am
by Grimgroove
In post 36, Wisdom wrote:I was not aware we would not know our partner's alignment either
What? Why would you? Is there any set-up where you know your partner's alignment barring the case he's your scumpartner?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:19 am
by Wisdom
Yes, Polygamist.

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:20 am
by Wisdom
Or if you're masons in any setup.

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:23 am
by Grimgroove
In post 49, Wisdom wrote:Whatever

FoS: Amrun, since suggesting such things usually comes from scum going for cred.
The Amrun-suggestion was bound to be made. Nulltell in my eyes.

pedit: That wouldn't make much sense, then you could simply halve the playerslist or just play as hydra's.

General question: Any guidelines on how to use the private QT properly for scumhunting? I realize it gives you an extra forum in a way, but I don't see why not everything we say could occur here.