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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:04 am

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Eon wrote:Again people think its Zindaras or Thesp and they want to sacrifice me to discover their role very smart.
Personally, I think it to be Zindras, but if he comes out clean, I will push for your lynch tomorow, if nothing new comes up. So we might as well get 2 "lynches" on the 2 scummiest people, no?
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:24 am

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Eon wrote:As i told before i have nothing to hide,
I know but,

A. If you have nothing to hide why are you so upset about getting killed, you still technically "win" if you're dead on the winning side.

B. People still find you suspicious so we just want to kill two birds with one stone.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:52 am

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Anyone wanting Zindaras to hammer Eon is basically saying Thesp should win the game if he's scum, since we will probably not make the time to get rid of him. I would really like to know how people feel about that.

Among my own suspects Thesp is only about #4. For that reason I'm halfway okay with letting him go, just because there's no time to cover all the bases.

The question (for me) is whether it is worth it to lose Eon. If he's town he could be pretty useful in the endgame (more useful than STD to be sure). I am positive the scum (if not Eon) wants to make sure Eon doesn't make it that far.
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:08 am

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Kelly Chen's been raggin' on Mayor Johnny this entire game...poor Mayor Johnny.

I think I want to re-read this game. I'll keep my vote on Eon if you guys make up your minds, but until I do I'm not going to suggest something one way or another.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:13 am

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That there wasn't really ragging on you. A pro-town governor in the endgame would be useful.
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:44 am

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Relyte wrote:
Eon wrote:As i told before i have nothing to hide,
I know but,

A. If you have nothing to hide why are you so upset about getting killed, you still technically "win" if you're dead on the winning side.

B. People still find you suspicious so we just want to kill two birds with one stone.
I technically win? You dont ever know who is scum so who ever is scum if its not Zindaras has big chances to win.

Im suspicios for my last day actions but hello i didnt know and i never picked sides.

Im really glad that SOMEONE understands me a bit, Thanks for that Kelly.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:46 am

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Checking in. I would say more but I think I've already said plenty that could yet receive some comment.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:52 am

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Kelly Chen wrote:That there wasn't really ragging on you. A pro-town governor in the endgame would be useful.
Woo hoo! A member of the opposite sex told me I was useful! There's hope for me after all!

My suspicion of Eon fluctuates.

I've got a really bad feeling about Thesp, and I've had it all game.

Eon is WAY too easy to be Maximus's partner.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:57 pm

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I still think Zindaras is trying to stall his way out of placing the lynching vote. I'm getting more convinced he's our last scum.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:44 am

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Yeah, I'm not really anxious to cast the hammer. I'd like for someone else to do it, to be honest. I'm not that eager to die.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:50 am

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I'm uncomfortable with how you've moved from asserting you'd be willing to place the hammer to being not anxious.
Unvote: Eon, Vote: Zindaras.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:51 am

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I'll take out Eon tomorrow, btw.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:55 am

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Thesp wrote:I'm uncomfortable with how you've moved from asserting you'd be willing to place the hammer to being not anxious.
Unvote: Eon, Vote: Zindaras.
Time to call the bluff.
The fact that I'm willing to place the hammer does not mean I'm overjoyed to do so.

I'm simply waiting for the Town to make up its mind, because people are posting other possibilities as well.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:00 am

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Zindaras wrote:The fact that I'm willing to place the hammer does not mean I'm overjoyed to do so.
I know, but your actions are consistent with someone who is trying to act as though they're willing, but will never come through, which is thoroughly consistent with how scum would act in such a situation. Happy, happy, happy with my vote.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:05 am

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Thesp wrote:
Zindaras wrote:The fact that I'm willing to place the hammer does not mean I'm overjoyed to do so.
I know, but your actions are consistent with someone who is trying to act as though they're willing, but will never come through, which is thoroughly consistent with how scum would act in such a situation. Happy, happy, happy with my vote.
I haven't seen a majority of the town telling me to hammer Eon, so I won't until it happens. Which part of that is hard to understand?
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:49 am

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Zindaras wrote:The fact that I'm willing to place the hammer does not mean I'm overjoyed to do so.
I know, but your actions are consistent with someone who is trying to act as though they're willing, but will never come through, which is thoroughly consistent with how scum would act in such a situation. Happy, happy, happy with my vote.
I haven't seen a majority of the town telling me to hammer Eon, so I won't until it happens. Which part of that is hard to understand?
I suspect I'm understanding perfectly. ;)
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:35 pm

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Zindaras wrote:
Thesp wrote:I'm uncomfortable with how you've moved from asserting you'd be willing to place the hammer to being not anxious.
Unvote: Eon, Vote: Zindaras.
Time to call the bluff.
The fact that I'm willing to place the hammer does not mean I'm overjoyed to do so.

I'm simply waiting for the Town to make up its mind, because people are posting other possibilities as well.
By people, I assume you mean yourself? We were waiting for ixnay so he could come and hammer, and you haven't done enough good yourself to make us feel like ixnay/you are cleared. I second the motion that you hammer eon.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:27 am

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Eon wrote:
Relyte wrote:
Eon wrote:As i told before i have nothing to hide,
I know but,

A. If you have nothing to hide why are you so upset about getting killed, you still technically "win" if you're dead on the winning side.

B. People still find you suspicious so we just want to kill two birds with one stone.
I technically win? You dont ever know who is scum so who ever is scum if its not Zindaras has big chances to win.

Im suspicios for my last day actions but hello i didnt know and i never picked sides.

Im really glad that SOMEONE understands me a bit, Thanks for that Kelly.
Eon, I'll be frank. I don't know who to lynch as much as the rest of us.

Now, no, we don't know who the hell is scum, but you two are the biggest suspects. Now, right now town way outnumbers scum.

Here is my logic:

If you're dead town. You still technically win, because if you're lynched, you did help catch scum or at least tried, and if you are NK'd you can't do anything about it.

At this rate we have ~3-4 lynches left, if we don't hammer you.

If we do we have ~2. But we have 1 less person to choose from... and if we hammer someone we want hammered it technically counts as two lynches. So it's about the same, except we learn the answers earlier.

Anyway, that logic didn't work out the way I was hoping.

Anyway this is for both Eon and Zindaras

My point is: Can you(Eon) and Zindaras just take one for the team?

After seeing both your reactions to being lynched. Hell, I'm inclined to think you're both scum.

Sure, I wouldn't be happy, that I had to get killed to progress the game.

But look at it this way, if the other guy is scum: You won it for us.

This game is not about you, this game is not about which individual lives the longest, it's about which alignment survives.

Zindaras: I understand it's frustrating to replace and be asked to sacrifice yourself, it's just how the game is going now. I hate to say it but you're pretty much not going to survive the day.

Unless you've

A. Got something to hide

B. Don't think Eon is scum. (Give me the one you've believed all along. With quotes. I doubt this, and if you're using this to save your ass, you're probably scum, and should've told us this supect earlier.)

I see nothing bad about hammering Eon.

Eon: Stop complaining about being lynched. If you've got nothing to hide then it's most likely Zindaras who is the scum. I hate to say it Eon, but you are going to be used in this situation, and you already know that. The only way you will probably survive this day is if Zindaras refuses to lynch you.

Eon, Zindaras. If neither of you have anything to hide, Zindaras you should hammer Eon, and Eon you should stop complaining about being lynched.

Zindaras, I will vote you if you do not agree to hammer Eon.
Eon, I will vote you if he does agree to hammer you.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:56 am

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Relyte wrote:After seeing both your reactions to being lynched. Hell, I'm inclined to think you're both scum.
QFT. Majorly. Only logic dictates its not true.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:51 am

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vote: Zindaras


Congrats to Thesp if
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the one who has weaseled out of hammering today...

Here's something to consider. If Zindaras is scum, wasn't it quite a blunder for him to come into the game gunning for Eon?
Someone
had to agree to hammer him.

I wouldn't really count that in his favor (I don't see that much direction in his first post, 179, and his EBWOP vote for Eon a minute later could easily have been a rushed decision), but it seems interesting.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:58 am

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You do understand if we BOTH arent scums Relyte?
Then i can say what is going to happen next, double voter is going to die, Kelly is going to die on day 3 and in the end only you and Thesp will remain. There is NO point in targetting THESP because he is suspicios and people might lynch him anyway.

But with me in this game you can say for sure TOWN is going to win, scums wont be able to murder me. Like seriously, your logic sucks my ROLE is biggest around here and you simply want to lynch it. Look at things from another side. What if THESP would get lynched on day 1?

Then imagine you would know who are 2 scums and include me in that list because im suspicios. Would town have chance to win this?

THe only ANTI role against me is THESP.

THESP was the only person who discovered scum on day 1 and lynched him.

a) it could be plot to make people think that he is town.
b) maybe its not a plot

Thats why i jumped on him first turn.
I would want town to suggest to follow lynching Zindaras only until we discover something new. People you should think about actions i would do during night.
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:10 am

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Ok. What actions would you do in the night?
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:48 am

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Well, that's majority. Bring us to Lynch-1 and I'll hammer.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:20 am

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Unvote: Zindaras, Vote: Eon.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:32 am

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Relyte wrote:My point is: Can you(Eon) and Zindaras just take one for the team?
Unless you have reason to believe both of them are town (i.e. you are scum) then...why would both of them need to take one for the team?

I think we need a fresh vote count.
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