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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:53 am
by Mac
↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:
So it's more likely Mac lacked your self restraint as scum, who should be watching every single thing they said, than that he(?) is town and speaking without concern for creating a "townie" persona?
whilst this was and still is the case, I have explained it was a joke. it was a joke I'd make whether I was either alignment so it's really not something to be crying about.
↑ Shakira Confirmed wrote: ↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:[*quotes my reasons while simultaneously ignoring them*]
So it's more likely Mac lacked your self restraint as scum, who should be watching every single thing they said, than that he(?) is town and speaking without concern for creating a "townie" persona?
No.
Scum hate being scumread for dumb reasons, and earlygame dumb/seemingly-unsupported scumreads. These are universal. Yes, town can hate that too, but they are also likely to just not care significantly more often than scum.
However, instinctive/basic scumplay is to try and shut early suspicion down quickly for obvious reasons (part of a more detailed explanation is because you don't want to have that kind of unnecessary baggage to carry on fighting against, but again, should be obvious reasons).
Here's how it went down:
91 is vezok making a(n oddly angry) remark about Mac bussing us.
92 is a regular flippant "lol fuck you idc" response. This would have resulted in me having a null to nulltown read on Mac had he left it at that.
However, his followup to that in
93 is massively scummy. It's scum making a damage control post, in case his 92 hadn't sufficiently handwaved away attention, or in case people would react negatively to 92's fluff-like dismissal of vezok's 91. (Imagine a celebrity actually taking the time to address a particular piece of tabloid gossip instead of ignoring it as usual - why even bother, unless that specific rumor actually has something true to it/worries you?) This was completely unnecessary for him to do as town, while him as scum had ample reason to make that post (again, damage control just in case vezok's suspicion there escalated or caught on to others).
already explained. 92 is not an idc post, it's a joke. 93 is an idc post. if i really gave a shit about what vezok said, I would've ignored it since, you know, it was an utterly ridiculous suggestion.
I'm not sure you are scum but you are overcomplicating something so simple to suit your view that I am scum doing X because I'm... panicking about a shitty accusation 4 pages in?
you've literally just watched my scum game; what similarities are you seeing between pokemon and here?
i am wondering why cerberus is hard defending me though. whilst i don't think my originally posting was as bad as is being made out, i don't think it warrants this level of defending that i am being blessed with
hi tere!!
shakira wrote:
Vezok / Mac interactions are weird.
there's only really been one interaction between us. what was weird about it? although, i would've agreed if you'd just said "vezok is being weird" because this super aggressive start looks super aggressively fake
this post was supposed to be my #248 but using multiple tabs caught up on me. my mistake!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 10:42 am
by Cerberus v666
Mac: I hate when people base cases on things which don't make sense to me, and feel compelled to confront them over it. Satisfies my desire to rail against the tides of confirmation bias, as well as, just in case the issue in question was malicious scum maneuvering rather than innocent town ignorance, forcing said scum to actually justify their opinion in the face of dissent.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:32 am
by Cerberus v666
↑ Ankamius wrote: ↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:Chainsawing? I'm not familiar with that term? I assume it has something to do with scum defending their partners? If that's the case, not sure why scum me would go to those lengths when shutting up and reading the thread probabky just leads to a shakira lynch. Unless shakira is scum, and by calling so much attention to that discussion, I've now moved suspicion from shakira onto Mac! That could make sense, I might do that I think...but of course then Mac would flip town, which messes with your entire line of reasoning.
Re: interesting. Perhaps I should say potentially interesting. Interesting interactions are ones which may yield informarion to town when revisited in the light of future events and flips.Is thar expansive enough for everyone?
Does anyone have knowledge of Cerberus? I can see both scum and town in this post but both of them are kind of dependent on playstyle.
Ika, Titus, Marquis , and mastin2 have played with me before, but the game is ongoing, so I don't really know if they'll be able to offer any insight at this point.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:33 am
by Mac
probably not going to be around for the weekend but that could always change
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:38 am
by Cerberus v666
I could link you to all my offsite games, if anybody wants to be able to apply their meta analysis skills to me and my posts. Much shorter days there, so the games are all the length of a day 1 here or less. :p
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:53 am
by Ankamius
↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:I could link you to all my offsite games, if anybody wants to be able to apply their meta analysis skills to me and my posts. Much shorter days there, so the games are all the length of a day 1 here or less. :p
Eh, don't bother. I'm never going to metadive anyone myself and I never take reads off metadives from other people seriously. I only take meta from personal experience as valid.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:20 pm
by Sonic Boom
↑ Cerberus v666 wrote: ↑ Ankamius wrote: ↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:Chainsawing? I'm not familiar with that term? I assume it has something to do with scum defending their partners? If that's the case, not sure why scum me would go to those lengths when shutting up and reading the thread probabky just leads to a shakira lynch. Unless shakira is scum, and by calling so much attention to that discussion, I've now moved suspicion from shakira onto Mac! That could make sense, I might do that I think...but of course then Mac would flip town, which messes with your entire line of reasoning.
Re: interesting. Perhaps I should say potentially interesting. Interesting interactions are ones which may yield informarion to town when revisited in the light of future events and flips.Is thar expansive enough for everyone?
Does anyone have knowledge of Cerberus? I can see both scum and town in this post but both of them are kind of dependent on playstyle.
Ika, Titus, Marquis , and mastin2 have played with me before, but the game is ongoing, so I don't really know if they'll be able to offer any insight at this point.
I will have things to say that feel awkward once ongoing ends, so that there's no confusion regarding ongoing games.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:26 pm
by Sonic Boom
Oh and for whoever asked, Hilary Duff is Shakira. Their avatar looks like Hilary Duff not Shakira. *shrug*
Fine with Mac votes, ika should swing. Metal is based in policy, I'm based in the fact ika's scum or at least pulling a gambit to make me think he's scum. The same pre-emptive "don't care to post" is how I caught ika in Uncouth.
Vezok's emotion rings true for me, which doesn't mean he's automatically town, but strongly suggests it. I'm fine with having Vezok being a townread.
Ank seems to agreeable. His opinions tend to follow consensus, which is why I have been leaving my thoughts a little naked. His reads literally follow major consensus for the most part, but for that awkward 180 on Vezok. Really, a townread because of an emoticon.
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Cerb, a chainsaw is where scum defend their partners by attacking the attackers of their scumbuddy. Example: Adam and Brett are scum. Charlie points the finger at Adam being scum. Brett then accuses Charlie of being scum. Brett is chainsawing on Adam's behalf. For more, see the wiki page. What website do you usually play on?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:27 pm
by Sonic Boom
Someone also asked for meta on me and Sonic, there's a little voluminous for our meta, if you're looking for a particular trait, I could answer, and so could the group. I also tend to post a lot, which I am taking a break from. That and I'm sick so hydra games take a back seat.
~End ObvTitus posting
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:57 pm
by Ankamius
UNVOTE: Mac
VOTE: Sonic Boom
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:01 pm
by Ankamius
That case on me is complete horseshit. It's not town.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:07 pm
by Shakira Confirmed
↑ Ankamius wrote: ↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:Chainsawing? I'm not familiar with that term? I assume it has something to do with scum defending their partners? If that's the case, not sure why scum me would go to those lengths when shutting up and reading the thread probabky just leads to a shakira lynch. Unless shakira is scum, and by calling so much attention to that discussion, I've now moved suspicion from shakira onto Mac! That could make sense, I might do that I think...but of course then Mac would flip town, which messes with your entire line of reasoning.
Re: interesting. Perhaps I should say potentially interesting. Interesting interactions are ones which may yield informarion to town when revisited in the light of future events and flips.Is thar expansive enough for everyone?
Does anyone have knowledge of Cerberus? I can see both scum and town in this post but both of them are kind of dependent on playstyle.
He's town.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:12 pm
by ika
so far my poe list has left me with these people:
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:13 pm
by ika
pffffffff take 2:
Flames682
vezokpiraka
Mac
Sonic Boom (Metal Sonic + Titus)
Wickedestjr
Lying Cat (sthar8 + Jingle)
mastin2
hiplop
Jaqen Hghar
Flubbernugget
everyone else not in this list is town to me atm
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:14 pm
by Shakira Confirmed
Flames is town.
Wicked is nulltown - significantly enough that it's worth mentioning at least.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:17 pm
by ika
↑ Shakira Confirmed wrote:Flames is town.
Wicked is nulltown - significantly enough that it's worth mentioning at least.
your gonna have to sell me on flames town right now.
wicked i have as null at best right now
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:18 pm
by Bins
the fu-
how the heck is flames town?
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:18 pm
by Bins
so many townreads from people
so little reason
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:21 pm
by ika
↑ Bins wrote:so many townreads from people
so little reason
can you clarify? i dont understand what you mean.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:22 pm
by Bins
I'm just seeing people throw around townreads.
Only people with explainable townreads are scum eh
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:24 pm
by Shakira Confirmed
Flames just reeks of town!Flames.
He just does!
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:27 pm
by ika
↑ Bins wrote:I'm just seeing people throw around townreads.
Only people with explainable townreads are scum eh
Maybe. Do you have any unexplainable town reads as well?
-.-
i can understand bins confusion now... granted i have it on sevral others but that flames one still baffles me
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:28 pm
by Bins
↑ ika wrote:Maybe. Do you have any unexplainable town reads as well?
No! But I don't have any really strong townreads yet either. I only get them after I start interacting with people.
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:29 pm
by Shakira Confirmed
Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:31 pm
by Sonic Boom
@ika, really nothing?
@Ank, You're upset that I'm calling your reads out for being fake and consensus driven. Just OMGUSing is making me feel I'm on the right track.