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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:02 pm
by copper223
Yeah but I was already on that wagon, I started it after the first RVS vote, so that makes 0 sense?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:03 pm
by MortFeld
I also don't see any harm in adding reasons if the reasons are valid.

That begs the question of why you were on it still before you voted me.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:03 pm
by copper223
In post 248, MortFeld wrote:235 was meant to show that whether or not scum lynchbait's reaction to pressure is qualitatively different than town lynchbait's, from my perspective Creeps' reaction could be town and you could have been pressuring him knowing he'd react scummily to jump on it.
Also why would I know all of this, I have no prior history with Creeps.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:04 pm
by MortFeld
In post 252, copper223 wrote:
In post 248, MortFeld wrote:235 was meant to show that whether or not scum lynchbait's reaction to pressure is qualitatively different than town lynchbait's, from my perspective Creeps' reaction could be town and you could have been pressuring him knowing he'd react scummily to jump on it.
Also why would I know all of this, I have no prior history with Creeps.
I didn't imply you did?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:05 pm
by MortFeld
Also I'm at work and not able to think very deeply on things. I brought some new reasons in for my vote because I thought of them after the vote.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:06 pm
by copper223
In post 251, MortFeld wrote:I also don't see any harm in adding reasons if the reasons are valid.

That begs the question of why you were on it still before you voted me.
But they are not valid, they are crap.

Because I was trying to figure out which one between You, TF and TB was more likely to be the (very likely) scum player that had jumped on my wagon opportunistically.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:07 pm
by copper223
In post 253, MortFeld wrote:I didn't imply you did?
Yes you did, how am I supposed to know he will react in a scummy way because he is lynchbait if I don't know the guy.

p-edit: I see you realize you are full of shit as well.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:10 pm
by MortFeld
K when I get off work I'll lay out the reasons and your responses to figure out if the case is actually crap. My intuition is that this is TvT but there might still be something here.

I also don't see how you think I'm more likely scum than TB whose play is wildly inconsistent and who didn't even justify his vote on you. Makes no sense.
In post 256, copper223 wrote:
In post 253, MortFeld wrote:I didn't imply you did?
Yes you did, how am I supposed to know he will react in a scummy way because he is lynchbait if I don't know the guy.

p-edit: I see you realize you are full of shit as well.
Why so combative?

You're classifying him as lynchbait, which means you think he acts scummy regardless of his alignment. You don't need to meta him to assume he'll react scummily to pressure.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:11 pm
by MortFeld
I'm still not seeing how introducing new reasons for voting someone after you vote them is scummy. You pinged me as scum and I thought about it more and saw more things.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:16 pm
by TwoFace
In post 241, copper223 wrote:VOTE: Mort

It's a toss-up but I believe it's more likely for TF to be a VI that doesn't get the difference between bad (in his mind) and scum, as opposed to Mort misreading what to me looks like a pretty obvious statement about lynchbaits, they could also both be scum but that seems less likely.

Also instead of re-examining your read after stating you had misunderstood Mort, you try to find new avenues of attack and that smacks of scum sticking to their read.
Don't insult me please. I'm not a vi and don't appreciate you accusing me of being one.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:17 pm
by copper223
TB is not explaining himself, you are making stuff up, which one looks scummier to you?

The point is I did not know he was lynchbait when I could have pushed him to get a reaction or I was already on his wagon when I said I thought he was, either way what you are saying does not work chronologically.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:18 pm
by MortFeld
Your post about Creeps came after you voted him, yes. How does that change anything?

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:19 pm
by copper223
In post 259, TwoFace wrote:Don't insult me please. I'm not a vi and don't appreciate you accusing me of being one.
If you happen to be town you definitely are and that is not an insult, it's a statement of what I believe about your level of play, take some of your own medicine.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:21 pm
by MortFeld
In post 262, copper223 wrote:
In post 259, TwoFace wrote:Don't insult me please. I'm not a vi and don't appreciate you accusing me of being one.
If you happen to be town you definitely are and that is not an insult, it's a statement of what I believe about your level of play, take some of your own medicine.
What I'm seeing is someone who gets voted and calls everyone voting him bad. As I said, I'm still just seeing advanced OMGUS.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:26 pm
by copper223
In post 261, MortFeld wrote:Your post about Creeps came after you voted him, yes. How does that change anything?
It makes your accusation about me pushing him to get a scummy reaction (while in this world I already had a perfectly fine case on him and was sitting happy on his wagon) bollocks.

It also makes no sense to accuse me at the same time of misusing my vote because I said I would unvote at L-1 (on the player I was trying to mislynch).

All of the above is far fetched enough I believe you are just randomly making stuff up now.

I want to see others post and I want to see lots of Mort votes.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:27 pm
by TwoFace
In post 262, copper223 wrote:
In post 259, TwoFace wrote:Don't insult me please. I'm not a vi and don't appreciate you accusing me of being one.
If you happen to be town you definitely are and that is not an insult, it's a statement of what I believe about your level of play, take some of your own medicine.
Shit son. You're the freaking idiot who says scum can be lynchbait. Lynchbait means a person who is easily mislynched. SCUM CAN'T BE MISLYNCHED.

If you're town I'm sorry

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:31 pm
by MortFeld
Whatever Copper. I still plan to go through all of the reasons so that I know for sure that your vote is bad and that I didn't actually play poorly.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:32 pm
by MortFeld
I'm very happy calling scum 'scum' instead of reds, since with the way Copper is playing if he's scum I legitimately hate him.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:33 pm
by copper223
In post 265, TwoFace wrote:Shit son. You're the freaking idiot who says scum can be lynchbait. Lynchbait means a person who is easily mislynched. SCUM CAN'T BE MISLYNCHED.

If you're town I'm sorry
There is no "mis" in lynchbait you idiot, so no it does not mean that, it means someone that is easily lynched and SCUM CAN BE AN EASY LYNCH AS WELL.

I have been playing this game likely for more years than you have lived, I also have for sure the highest win-rate as scum and third party on this forum (as I have never lost) and I doubt there are many players with a better town win-rate (closing in on 80% now) so I know what I am talking about and you do not.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:34 pm
by MortFeld
You're an arrogant dick

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:36 pm
by MortFeld
Arrogant dickishness is NAI though.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:36 pm
by copper223
Sure, that does not make me scum.

You two are just as arrogant (especially if you're town) and at least I can back it up.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:37 pm
by MortFeld
All I can say until I can reread is that I agree that I'd rather see non-Copper people post.

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:39 pm
by TwoFace
In post 268, copper223 wrote:
In post 265, TwoFace wrote:Shit son. You're the freaking idiot who says scum can be lynchbait. Lynchbait means a person who is easily mislynched. SCUM CAN'T BE MISLYNCHED.

If you're town I'm sorry
There is no "mis" in lynchbait you idiot, so no it does not mean that, it means someone that is easily lynched and SCUM CAN BE AN EASY LYNCH AS WELL.

I have been playing this game likely for more years than you have lived, I also have for sure the highest win-rate as scum and third party on this forum (as I have never lost) and I doubt there are many players with a better town win-rate (closing in on 80% now) so I know what I am talking about and you do not.
Blah blah blah

Hopefully we lynch you. If not I really hope we have a vig

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:42 pm
by copper223
:D thanks for demonstrating how right I am either way.