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There's also the side penalty that it prevents a significant set of people from actually playing the game which isn't fun at all.

I would be voting LLD if this were a standard game where we could vote.

I'd also be voting LLD right now

I don't scumread Cabd necessarily and I'm not sure where that's coming from though.

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For me it's because he's asking for permission to pair up with someone that he's probably going to pair up with regardless of permission so he's just grandstanding and trying to keep a good image

In post 255, Dunnstral wrote:For me it's because he's asking for permission to pair up with someone that he's probably going to pair up with regardless of permission so he's just grandstanding and trying to keep a good image

You mean Cabd?

ok then, RC, let's dance and we can blow each other up.

You're down for that right?

Like I promise you if I dance with RC I will instantly blow myself up day 1. He thinks I'm scum, this should be good right?

I fully support this.

I'm down dude.

In post 256, Firebringer wrote:

In post 255, Dunnstral wrote:For me it's because he's asking for permission to pair up with someone that he's probably going to pair up with regardless of permission so he's just grandstanding and trying to keep a good image

You mean Cabd?

Yes

LLD and I have never played a game together as far as I can remember. Maybe a long time ago. I can't prove that she should respect my scumgame like I respect hers but we've had interactions that I gut feel indicate that she would. So let's unpack this. She explicitly takes the time to bring up that Cabd is the person she would be most scared of if they were scum. Potentially true, sure? But I think it was deliberately said to make a show of her not being scared of me. I think that she's concerned that I would be difficult to deal with in a PT and wants someone that she feels that she would be more comfortably able to pocket as opposed to someone both with my own scum play to use as guidelines vs her as well as just being unpredictable and difficult as town in general.

I don't know much about Cabd's scum game, perhaps he's actually really good at scum. But I don't think she brings that up in the situation that she did unless it wasn't explicitly to give an alternate theory to my own 'I want to be matched with the most dangerous scum player because I feel like I am most able to deal with that slot properly, both in terms of not paranoia leaving when we're both town and not being pocketed.' It was out of place in her ISO, don't really see where it was coming from as town, but it serves a clear purpose as scum.

In post 258, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like I promise you if I dance with RC I will instantly blow myself up day 1. He thinks I'm scum, this should be good right?

Why?

I want to dance with you not just because I'm concerned about you rolling scum but because I think I can comfortably townread you if you're town and not go paranoia hara kiri on you.
I was assuming that you would see the situation in somewhat the same light, but that's clearly not true here.

In post 262, RadiantCowbells wrote:LLD and I have never played a game together as far as I can remember. Maybe a long time ago. I can't prove that she should respect my scumgame like I respect hers but we've had interactions that I gut feel indicate that she would. So let's unpack this. She explicitly takes the time to bring up that Cabd is the person she would be most scared of if they were scum. Potentially true, sure? But I think it was deliberately said to make a show of her not being scared of me. I think that she's concerned that I would be difficult to deal with in a PT and wants someone that she feels that she would be more comfortably able to pocket as opposed to someone both with my own scum play to use as guidelines vs her as well as just being unpredictable and difficult as town in general.

I don't know much about Cabd's scum game, perhaps he's actually really good at scum. But I don't think she brings that up in the situation that she did unless it wasn't explicitly to give an alternate theory to my own 'I want to be matched with the most dangerous scum player because I feel like I am most able to deal with that slot properly, both in terms of not paranoia leaving when we're both town and not being pocketed.' It was out of place in her ISO, don't really see where it was coming from as town, but it serves a clear purpose as scum.

That's nice, but she's asking for you to partner with her after all and it seems the bulk of your argument is that she doesn't want to partner with you

Honestly, she appears to be a bit unstable. I'm really glad I'm partnered with MariaR right now.

Maria is stable?

Yes, but she'd have you think otherwise

In post 257, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:ok then, RC, let's dance and we can blow each other up.

You're down for that right?

In post 258, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like I promise you if I dance with RC I will instantly blow myself up day 1. He thinks I'm scum, this should be good right?

Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawp

LLD I never played with chu
but if you two are both town, I think that would be a strong asset to have, yeah?

And I feel like I should point out that agreeing to partner up just so that she can take us both out of the game is hardly agreeing to partner up at all.

In post 268, Dunnstral wrote:Yes, but she'd have you think otherwise

She does have me thinking otherwise very often

In post 119, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't want to pair with GBT because she can't read me and she knows it so it'll be very easy for someone else (scum) to persuade her to drop out of the dance if she's town.

raybells did you literally miss the post where i say it's stupid for town to suicide this game

if hebi isn't dictating pairs i'm 100% pairing with someone i townread (so far keyen or vecna would be my top picks, could also go for max)

why would you even think this

also on this page, scorched earth plan is stupid too as is lld's counterargument - scum literally cannot manipulate randomization done by conftown and that's basically what the town before the last tried to do. it doesnt work out well.

pedit:

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In post 257, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:ok then, RC, let's dance and we can blow each other up.

You're down for that right?

In post 258, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like I promise you if I dance with RC I will instantly blow myself up day 1. He thinks I'm scum, this should be good right?

Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawp

LLD I never played with chu
but if you two are both town, I think that would be a strong asset to have, yeah?

do you have any reason to townread her atm?

Don't dance with Giga.
She is scum

In post 262, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't know much about Cabd's scum game, perhaps he's actually really good at scum.

There's two games where I manipulated her effectively specifically. Both Vi moderated.

Mafia Xenologue and Mafia Pinnepedium.

I imagine it's a function of those two games having been such strong scum victories.