Mini Normal 2010 - Scientific Mafia [GAME OVER]

[TwoInAMillion]

I think Srceenplay vs. Shoshin is the elephant in the room right now.

Why are you voting me, not Screen?

I have more experience with Screen and feel I could sort scumScreen more than ScumYou later in the game.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm town, way to go.

[TwoInAMillion]

Oops wrong game:).

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm town in this game too, no harm done.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Huh, he actually did it. I told him that it was a terrible idea, and to at least wait a few days to not disrupt the day, but he did it anyway. If this isn't some kind of mafia gambit, I do want you to know how obnoxious and self-centered your play is and how much I dislike it.

I agree that there's at least 1 scum in our group, but actually, I think there might be two. Screen's insistence on outing the group, along with the fight between him and Sho in the PT did not read natural to me. I couldn't post about this before, for obvious reasons, but I've had a bad feeling for a while. If they're both Scum engaging in a gambit to mostly clear one of the two, that makes all of it make the most sense.

Tiam, you said you would be my buddy.
Stop distracting from the found scum.

Look at Shoshin or Garuga

Which do you think. Has anything interesting been going on in the neighborhood?

Yes. That’s why I’m voting Shoshin.
I would think it’s why brawl voted with me.
It’s been silent for 24 hours now.

No, the vote was because of her behavior in thread. I'm pretty sure I covered this explicitly.


Sau's incredibly unhelpful, still, but his tone reads Town to me.

TiamWagon isn't going anywhere, and we can revisit Screen in the future. VOTE: Sho

[BuJaber]

Good observation on Sho/Brawl/Screen. Do you think the jokes about a scum PT are a hint of some sort?

It might be. The whole thing just seems off, y'know?
Just seems like a weird progression of RVS.
Like it is clear that screen is going for some shock value with his opener. Is it a townie just making a joke for laughs, or a reaction test of some sort or is it scum doing something rediculous so that we all think "must be townie; scum wouldn't expose themselves like that".

So without additional info about screen we can only say it's NAI. Sho townreading him for it is also NAI because town can be wrong. Just because she's townreading something NAI doesn't automatically make her scum. Byron then scumreads her for 'buddying'. Sho responds back with a countercase on Byron. It just all seems forced and escalating too quickly for it to be a genuine TvTvT convo. Hence my suspicion that it is TvTvS. It might be TvSvS but scum tend to think twice about joining their buddy in the spotlight so I think the average scum instinct would be to take a step back. So 1 scum seems more likely than 2.

Garuga being nice and agreeing with people who suspect him is strange. It makes me think scum who wants to disarm or appeal to his accusers. However his posts about the other players show a townie pov. He's contributing to the discussion at least so for now I'll UNVOTE:

Byron's posts: That's a lot of no content that looks like content. But I'm townreading the tone of his posts. He really seems to want to generate content. Especially that it would be risky for scum to talk about so many people like that right from the start where you basically have nothing but gut to go on. He doesn't strike me as someone who's confident enough to put himself in a position where he would have to continue explaining his reads and read progression. Talking about the entire playerlist exposes several holes for people to attack you for weak reasoning. Especially when it is really pointless to talk about everyone. Why post a read on someone that hasn't posted anything yet?
Since he likes the word so much, this is what you would call anti-town. It's not helpful that you tells us x and y haven't posted yet when the game has just begun.
However your tone does seem towny and I can't really see the scum motivation to post like you.

Which brings us to shoshin who imo is suspecting byron based on a shallow look at his posts. It is an easy thing for scum to attack someone for; especially that people's definition of "fluff" may differ so it is really easy to defend yourself when calling something fluff. VOTE: shoshin

I also don't like hop's naked vote. I thought he wanted to RVS vote because he missed it but his follow up implies he means it. He needs to give reasons if he wants sheepers.
I do agree with Brawl that hop's 77 is good. And I am willing to give a slight townlean on brawl for 116. I think it shows him apprpaching things from an unbiased perspective.

I still like mumble for town but less sarcasm please. I don't want to have to guess why you're using the sarcasm later. It will cause unnecessary paranoia.

I am a town neighbor.
Shoshin and brawl are both in my hood.

Then one of Screen and Shoshin and Brawl are probably scum, a 3 town neighborhood is probably unlikely?

Nice so that's why their dialogue was so unnatural. They are already talking to each other in the neighbourhood. But yes this is an even bigger reason to suspect that 1 of them is scum.

VOTE: shoshin
Back to this.


Saudade if you're town and acting like this you deserve the lynch.

My case on shoshin is outlined in the above posts for those that keep asking.

TBG but you saying that now before shoshin flips makes you look more like shoshin's partner than screen. I'm happy assuming 1 scum among you for now. If shoshin flips scum the right move is to keep you both alive (TBG and screen) for one or two more day phases and see if one of you exposes himself.

[Shoshin]

VOTE: BuJaber

[Srceenplay]

The wheels on the buss go round and round

[Srceenplay]

That was my prodge post.

[Srceenplay]

Shoshin, concede?

[Srceenplay]

Oh I know.
Create winfom. Who should we lynch next.

[BuJaber]

Saudade or Garuga
Saudade for obvious reasons
Garuga for trying to make it look like I knew about the PT. Now that we know you 3 are in a neighborhood I think garuga slipped knowledge of it.

[TehBrawlGuy]

TBG but you saying that now before shoshin flips makes you look more like shoshin's partner than screen. I'm happy assuming 1 scum among you for now. If shoshin flips scum the right move is to keep you both alive (TBG and screen) for one or two more day phases and see if one of you exposes himself.

I'm flattered that you think I have the stones to interject and mention there might be two Scum in the group after most people are assuming one Scum, all while I'm attempting to bus my scummate, instead of just like chilling out and scoring a million townpoints, but no. If I'm right, even if you kill me before Screen, we still kill most of the scumteam by offing the hood.

I agree, though, it's best to keep us alive a while and then go from there. That's what I was trying to tell Screen to do before he decided to claim us unpressured less than 72 hours after game start.

[Srceenplay]

I’ll get to that later.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Setting up any lynches past today is an awful idea, with the sole exception of maybe lynching in the hood again if we ML Sho.

The real discussion should be on if we want to hit inside the hood today, or if we should leave the hood to sort more or to the PRs. Is anyone is worth hitting outside the hood? Outside of TiaM I don't really think I could get behind a non-hood lynch.

[Srceenplay]

Shhhhh

[Srceenplay]

You are d deflecting the lynch. That looks scumy.

[BuJaber]

I think the hood thing took command of the game and due to the low posting nature of the other players the 3 neighbors are among the top posters. Sorting you 3 out helps sort out people talking about you. If I may offer an analogy: the neighborhood is the elephant in the room and the snakes are hiding behind it out of sight.

[TehBrawlGuy]

You are d deflecting the lynch. That looks scumy.

Yes, I'm trying to see what other candidates we have. If we off Sho now as the only major wagon, I don't think we gain as much as we could, especially if she's a ML. I'm not really concerned with how that looks, because I think the three of us probably have to die by the end of the game anyway.

[TwoInAMillion]

No one is assuming anything about the nieghborhood. But 1 scum is more likely than no scum, and 2 scum is less likely than 1 scum, and 3 scum is less likely than 2 scum. Ignoring the odds isn't helpful.

[TehBrawlGuy]

Neither is acting on them prematurely. The three of us are still going to be in a hood tomorrow, and the odds will be the same tomorrow. There's merit to discussing our options, otherwise we lynch through the hood and there's not a lot gained because we've just lynched on the odds.

[BuJaber]

But I've been wanting to lynch one of you even before screen confirmed being in a neighborhood. Shoshin is scum by play not just odds.
You have other suspects I will gladly discuss with you, but the lynch shouldn't change for today.

[ByronVilla]

What are the chances that all 3 scum fakeclaim being neighbors, therefore if one/two dies the others are cleared of suspicion? I really really

really

doubt this is the case but is it something we should be aware of or should we just dismiss that possibility?

[Srceenplay]

What are the chances that all 3 scum fakeclaim being neighbors, therefore if one/two dies the others are cleared of suspicion? I really really

really

doubt this is the case but is it something we should be aware of or should we just dismiss that possibility?

I think you are close.

[Gustavo]

Just checking in to say high. I’ll ketxhup tomarrow.