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Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:50 am**

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:52 am**

nancefloor? I mean are they scummy?

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:54 am**

In post 250, Time Devil wrote:Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Why are you trying to push us?

~N

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:55 am**

VOTE: Time Devil

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:56 am**

In post 194, NanceFloor wrote:Why do you find us scummy, TD?

- Dann

@TD

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:00 am**

In post 250, Time Devil wrote:Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever, never answer Dann’s question as to why. No they’re eager to mislynch us.

I think TD may be scum and knows we’re not the 8 ball.

~Nancy - resident bs detector

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:02 am**

In post 255, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 250, Time Devil wrote:Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there
I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever, never answer Dann’s question as to why. No they’re eager to mislynch us.

I think TD may be scum and knows we ARE the 8 ball.

~Nancy - resident bs detector

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:03 am**

In post 64, Creature wrote:I politely request you to copulate your own self, RC.

Respectfully request that you attempt copulation with yourself somewhere else.

In post 70, BrightEyedFish wrote:And to add to that... I have no idea who we should "sacrifice" with the best chance to not hit the 8ball.

This is an absolutely disturbing idea. We have literally 1/17[?] chance without talking. Arent we supposed to hit scum?

In post 152, RadiantCowbells wrote:Shoshin how are you doing?

In post 196, RadiantCowbells wrote:Shoshin I'm lost without you come back

In post 227, BrightEyedFish wrote:Do you think Chen is a valid 8ball target?

sure. But maybe im just confused why its such a big deal?

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:06 am**

None of that was based on this game, and it’s like proven that it shouldn’t be, which is why Shadow has much more of a chance than a Shoshin.

~Conf

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:06 am**

In post 256, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 255, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 250, Time Devil wrote:Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there
I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever, never answer Dann’s question as to why. No they’re eager to mislynch us.

I think TD may be scum and knows we ARE the 8 ball.

~Nancy - resident bs detector

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:11 am**

no solid reads, i purposely ignore any wallish post that happen early on.

If i had to pick who i would pick as an 8ball id go for somebody who posts a lot and draws paranoia.

hmmmmmmm

Spoiler: plist

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:18 am**

In post 252, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 250, Time Devil wrote:Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there
Why are you trying to push us?

~N

In post 254, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 194, NanceFloor wrote:Why do you find us scummy, TD?

- Dann
@TD

Are you ever planning to answer this @Time Devil?

You initially voted us because you apparently sr us, now you think we’re the 8 ball? How did you get from sr us to thinking we’re the 8 ball?

~Nancy

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:19 am**

In post 261, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 252, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 250, Time Devil wrote:Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there
Why are you trying to push us?

~N

In post 254, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 194, NanceFloor wrote:Why do you find us scummy, TD?

- Dann
@TD

Are you ever planning to answer this @Time Devil?

You initially voted us because you apparently sr us, now you think we’re the 8 ball? How did you get from sr us to thinking we’re the 8 ball?

~Nancy

Shit, sorry mod.

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:32 am**

ugh... just light these past 2 pages on fire

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:43 am**

you are my first tr

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:44 am**

In post 263, Taly wrote:ugh... just light these past 2 pages on fire

pls contribute

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:45 am**

In post 165, Time Devil wrote:
Not liking dann this game.....

First: sr us, never really explains why.

In post 168, Time Devil wrote:VOTE: nancefloor

In post 170, Time Devil wrote:
In post 166, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

Please do

Tries to manipulate RC into pushing us.

In post 172, Time Devil wrote:
In post 166, RadiantCowbells wrote:i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

And I 100% agree with you on this

If you

agree

with RC, what part of him not being interested in pushing us, went over your head?

In post 229, Time Devil wrote:
I can't help but feel like the NanceFloor heads disagree with each other, and the fact 191 has to exist only gives credence.

Walking back initial fake sr on us.

In post 220, BrightEyedFish wrote:VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there
. If so let us know.
This does not seem right. Is there a reason for not wanting to be on Oka's wagon? I agree with Fuscosco that this is overly cautious.

(but yeah chen should effort more)

-TL

Really hard driving our lynch now.

In post 250, Time Devil wrote:
Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Now, does an apparent 180 and suddenly tr us here. But NOW wants to push us because we’re 100% never the target.

If TD can’t push our mislynch by convincingly casing us as scum, he’s apparently good with casing us with NOT being the 8 ball.

So @TD, how did we go from your #1 sr to your #1 8 ball pick? Kind of sudden turnaround, wouldn’t you say?

~Nancy

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:52 am**

whats the point of 8ball spec

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:53 am**

TD is the only one who is advocating the same slot as NEVER the 8 ball as his initial #1 sr but it’s abundantly clear that he thinks scum wouldn’t have chosen us as the 8 ball, so he’s now tr us.

His entire progressive on our slot is fake and is not a townie thought process

.

~Nancy

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:58 am**

In post 267, OkaPoka wrote:whats the point of 8ball spec

There isn’t, we should just try to hit scum and hardpushing a slot’s lynch for any goddamned reason they can think of, isn’t townie, which is precisely what TD is doing.

~N

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:08 am**

In post 227, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 223, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 220, BrightEyedFish wrote:VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there. If so let us know.
why so cautious?

And yea. its been my observation over the past month that chen is competent but too quiet and kind of low hanging in the early game.
Do you think Chen is a valid 8ball target?

1)

How can you tell whether

Chenn

is or isn't? Regardless of their alignment, there's no definitive way to tell if someone is 8ball based off superficial playstyle, so why does that any impact on your read here?

2)

I assume you townread

Oka

or don't vibe with the votes on them?

In post 242, Confirmation Bias wrote:8-Ball Thoughts

RadiantCowbells - Never 8-Ball
mbaki - Never 8-Ball
OkaPoka - Possible, but I believe that they would be overlooked.
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu) - Could be, but similar to OkaPoka, but a little less.
Shoshin - Hasn’t even picked up yet, this is never 8-Ball
Vedith - Never 8-Ball
Creature - Hmm, could go either way, but I don’t think this is ever 8-Ball.
Taly - Never 8-Ball
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???) - I guess we could be 8-Ball. Kind of odd to comment on this.
Clemency - If familiar, High chance of being 8-ball
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor) - Medium-low chance at being 8-Ball.
Chennisden - If town, and scum are familiar with the playlist, highest chance at being 8-Ball, but for that reason, might not be 8-Ball.
Chemist1422 - eh.
0verkill - eh
BrightEyedFish - same as Clemency.
Shadowlesscloud - Replacement coming in is too risky. Not 8-Ball.
Fuscosco - High chance at being 8-Ball.

Conf

VOTE: Confirmation Bias

1)

Why are you focusing on the

8ball

? We didn't speedvote

8ball

so we can try to figure out who was likely voted for it. That's pretty much the opposite intention here.

2)

How did you come to the conclusion on who is more lynchbaity than not? Playstyle? Meta? I don't know either head of your hydra, so I assume you don't have adequate amount of familiarity with me or other players to deduce this about me.

And if you did, that makes me question your motivations even more.

3)

How can you say

{Me/mbaki/RadiantCowbells/etc.}

will NEVER be

8-Ball

?

What if we were scum who 8-balled ourselves

and were baiting our lynch?

What if we were scum who 8-balled someone else

because we didn't plan to get lynched?

What if we were town who got 8-balled BECAUSE

we were

"not lynchbaity, therefore a safe lynch"

?

What if we were town who didn't get 8-balled, BUT

we are a good

"this person is playing like X and Y on playstyle, so we can lynch/townbloc them!"

Town can't strategize on this basis, and scum can ONLY strategize based off CONTROLLING how people will get lynched via looking at their

"lynchbait equity"

... Which isn't too helpful pre-8ball-vote, since we didn't start the game with

"I think this person is town or scum!"

4)

You're saying people who are lynchbaity can likely be 8ball and this is true, but you're making radical assumptions about people's alignments and motives before even interacting with the game. This is extremely agenda-based play and no town player can evaluate a

"readslist"

like this and find clarity on how to solve for who is town or scum.

This post is just WIFOM and if you were in the original startup of this game and knew why people voted

8ball

then that makes this worse.

In post 250, Time Devil wrote:Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

if you guys want to fuck around and lol-lynch people based on

"this person's playstyle makes them not lynchbaity, they're a safe lynch!"

versus actually scumreading and solving the game then wait for a marathon to come around and openwolf when its less obvious in a short-term game

@Mod, can I link the original start of this game?
It didn't end on normal completion terms so I wanted to know if I'm not missing any particular site rule nobody talks about.

Some people lost my trust in them being able to do their homework.

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:08 am**

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:09 am**

oh my god i need a minute

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:10 am**

ok minute is over.

Posted: **Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:10 am**

Do we learn who the 8ball was after the day?

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