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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:31 am
by mutantdevle
In post 248, Awoo wrote:
In post 246, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 244, Awoo wrote:Judging by the wall of mutant posts I doubt he will be flipping scum.
How do you feel about me directly accusing you of being scum?
Not much. You say you have experience with me therefore I'm scum. I think we played in cul de sac a long time ago...? Want to elaborate before you die?
Lol, don't try to pretend like that's my only experience with you. You mentioned earlier in the game that you are also from the EE forums and proved it by showing knowledge of events there. I strongly believe you are Kira (from the EE forums) due to your tone being exactly like his. If you are Kira then there is no way you that you aren't scum here. Sure, I can't prove you're Kira, but it must be questioned why you're not prepared to say who you are and why you just tried to discredit my experience with you.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:32 am
by Donempire
@Mod, i'll be vla until 6th of october


Noted

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:39 am
by mutantdevle
Awoo - Menalque is more scum than town.
Correspondence is a firm null. Good luck trying to sort them.
Everyone else is more town than scum.
This is my list of scummiest to least scummy.

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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:42 am
by Awoo
I'm not Kira.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:42 am
by mutantdevle
Something I can't help but feel about my wagon is that, if I had replaced out at any point for whatever reason, this is the kind of wagon where everyone would probably have unvoted when the replacement makes their first few posts saying they don't know what who they replaced was doing.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:43 am
by mutantdevle
In post 253, Awoo wrote:I'm not Kira.
No one should believe this unless you say who you actually are.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:44 am
by mutantdevle
If you want me to reevaluate your actions in this game then you should say who you are so that I can judge your actions from that perspective.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:45 am
by Awoo
Sigh, but messing with people is so /fun/!

I'm NoNK.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:47 am
by mutantdevle
In post 257, Awoo wrote:Sigh, but messing with people is so /fun/!

I'm NoNK.
That actually makes sense.

Okay, I revoke the scum read. I still struggle to understand why you scum read me in this game.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:48 am
by Awoo
Exactly the reasons I said in my post... lol.

I see us as sort of similar, and you did something I did as scum.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:50 am
by Awoo
Like, I was actually reconsidering my read on you when joey was imploring me to do so, I actually got to the point where I thought to myself "yeah, I've got some serious bias here and I might need to rethink this", but your reads post plus titus burying you turned me off the idea.

We've all seen you on the EE forums as a town leader, but never that much under pressure (at least I don't recall it much), so yeah this looked pretty out of left field to me.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:52 am
by mutantdevle
Did the rest of my posting/explanation not convince you otherwise? I feel like you were so biased in your original conclusion that you never took a moment to truly evaluate anything else I said in the game.

Also, what do you think of Norwegianboy's hammer?


Pedit: okay you pretty much answered my first question in the way I laid out in this post. I think you're town.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:54 am
by Donempire
Dont really get your townread on me though mutant, i ascertain that i havent done much to earn that so far, and my activity has been lacking

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:55 am
by mutantdevle
In post 260, Awoo wrote:We've all seen you on the EE forums as a town leader, but never that much under pressure (at least I don't recall it much),
I was under quite a bit of pressure in PurgatorEE. I'm still in shock that processor randomly decided to trust me after scum reading me almost all game.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:58 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Mutant, the fact that you didn't vote for any of your scumreads or doing about anything to create a proper counterwagon didn't make a lick of sense to me. You made a reads posts and then seemingly left it at that. Titus's explanation of yourself being at L-1 but still not budging gave me some bad vibes about you, it seems like you're trying to set up shades and stuff for your inevitable lynch. So i had to make a choice here.
In post 257, Awoo wrote:I'm NoNK.
Oh. You never actually play the mafia games at the EE forums, yet you're fine with playing on this site? A bit weird, but ok. I can believe that.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:59 am
by mutantdevle
In post 262, Donempire wrote:Dont really get your townread on me though mutant, i ascertain that i havent done much to earn that so far, and my activity has been lacking
It's mostly PoE to be honest. There are so many people that are scummier than you that I think it's a simple matter of probability that you're town especially considering I see no scumminess or hidden agenda in your posts. Besides, based on my belief that you're not scum with Norwegianboy, his scummy hammer makes me think you are town all the more.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:01 am
by Awoo
Oh yeah, baby. I was biased even before I replaced in.

Yeah if I recall correctly you reacted pretty differently in purgatorEE (or maybe you didn't, I clearly totally forgot about that part of the game which I hosted), either way you have a higher reputation on that site which is what I'm trying to get at.

I know I said no more reads, but I'm still leaning towards norwegianboy being town. I've got this image in my head that town norwegianboy on this site is a bit more clumsy? overconfident? kind of just doing things he thinks are good or helpful even if they're not? That kind of lines up with how I expect him to behave. Do you think his hammer and flip makes him scum?

Objectively it's pretty bad, but let's be honest, so were a lot of things you were doing, like pretty much everything titus grilled you on. And as we know from you, objectively scummy doesn't always translate right into actual scum.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:02 am
by mutantdevle
In post 264, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mutant, the fact that you didn't vote for any of your scumreads or doing about anything to create a proper counterwagon didn't make a lick of sense to me.
I wasn't exactly in a position to push my scum reads, was I?
In post 264, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You made a reads posts and then seemingly left it at that. Titus's explanation of yourself being at L-1 but still not budging gave me some bad vibes about you, it seems like you're trying to set up shades and stuff for your inevitable lynch. So i had to make a choice here.
Yeah you're right. Unfortunately someone hammered me before I had a chance to make any more posts after my reads list.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:04 am
by Awoo
YES YOU WERE MUTANT I WANTED YOU TO PUSH FOR A SCUMREAD :( :( :( :(

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:04 am
by Awoo
That was also my problem with joey, he wasn't PUSHING anyone, he was just weirdly defending!!!

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:08 am
by mutantdevle
In post 266, Awoo wrote:Do you think his hammer and flip makes him scum?

Objectively it's pretty bad, but let's be honest, so were a lot of things you were doing, like pretty much everything titus grilled you on. And as we know from you, objectively scummy doesn't always translate right into actual scum.
I disagree that I was objectively scummy.


And yes, I do think he is scum because of his hammer. Don't get me wrong, the hammer itself is not the thing I have the problem with. It's the fact that he didn't wait for me to respond before delivering on his intent. I really think that Norwegianboy as town would have had the sense to, at the very least, wait a decent amount of time before doing something like that.

But honestly, it all depends on his responses/explanations. That's why I don't want you to just conclude that he is town. You're the living player that has the most experience with him. So grill him, pressure him, make him give you information. And then make your conclusion.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:14 am
by mutantdevle
In post 268, Awoo wrote:YES YOU WERE MUTANT I WANTED YOU TO PUSH FOR A SCUMREAD :( :( :( :(
I was actually planning to vote for Menalque. I read Titus' posts last night on my phone at 3 in the morning before going to sleep. I literally went to sleep last night thinking about this game which is when I concluded that pisskop was town hence validating my scum read on Menalque. Sadly, when I woke up (Or rather, when I finally got out of bed) I had been lynched.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:16 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Awoo your personality is so oddly different from how you usually act on the EE forums lol. You seem much more open, less jokey, like a real human being.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:17 am
by mutantdevle
In post 264, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So i had to make a choice here.
And your choice was to not wait for me to respond to you, or anything else in this thread since I had last posted, despite it only having been 7 hours since you declared intent? Let's be absolutely clear about this, if you had your way, I'd not have been able to make any of the posts that I have done in the last few hours.

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:18 am
by Awoo
In post 272, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Awoo your personality is so oddly different from how you usually act on the EE forums lol. You seem much more open, less jokey, like a real human being.
Feels good, doesn't it?