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Does Pine actively lurk as scum? He hasn't posted in this game in almost two days, but he has been posting consistently elsewhere on site during his absence from this game.

- Volxen (Definitely Town)

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- Volxen (Definitely Town)

In post 246, Shadoweh wrote:I told you I was busy <.<

I don't remember how to post without making up bullshit reads anymore tbh, my last town game was over a year ago. Normally I'd be pretending to be suspicious of pops and sucking up to tris for being obvtown by now.

And if you do which part of pops' posts would you go after?

In post 247, Definitely Not Scum wrote: And since you apparently think that Oversoul’s posts are towny coming from him but those same posts would have been scummy coming from me, I don’t get why you didn’t simply ask which head was posting up front, rather than defaulting to assuming that I was writing the posts and then voting for our slot solely on that basis.

This is what someone like [redacted] would do, rather than place a vote and later remove it, and generating a discussion. And he would probably get mislynched less often because of that. But I think he'd win fewer games for it because there is far more overlap between getting mislynched and winning than most players realize.

What exactly is the basis of your townread on our slot? Are you individually townreading both my posts and Oversoul’s posts?

- Volxen (Definitely Town)

I have little on Oversoul apart from sprinkles so the basis is all you (+ some amount of inference from unexciting pushes on your slot).
I think pushing me on vote fluidity and misreading of hydra heads is supremely dumb but it reads obstinate town. Lying about hydra head identification, if it had actually happened, would be a "gotcha" and I'd expect scum!volxen to either tunnel it or vanity wagon it rather than do this thing where you explore to what extent it's valid. I actually feel like this exploration shouldn't take nearly as long as it's taking you. But that you're not posting "QED QED QED" right now is town indicative.

In post 250, Definitely Not Scum wrote:Does Pine actively lurk as scum? He hasn't posted in this game in almost two days, but he has been posting consistently elsewhere on site during his absence from this game.

- Volxen (Definitely Town)

I'd elaborate more if I didn't have to go afk right this second but the last 3 Pine hardlurk/ replaceouts I specc'ed/played were town/town/scum, all with posts on other parts of site

In post 242, popsofctown wrote:apparently town don't reconsider their positions in light of new information

In post 253, popsofctown wrote:Lying about hydra head identification, if it had actually happened, would be a "gotcha" and I'd expect scum!volxen to either tunnel it or vanity wagon it rather than do this thing where you explore to what extent it's valid. I actually feel like this exploration shouldn't take nearly as long as it's taking you. But that you're not posting "QED QED QED" right now is town indicative.

These statements seem somewhat at odds.

I don't understand how they're at odds.
You know post 242 has seventy sarcasm tags right
volxen is gathering new information to potentially change his stance because he is probtown, because that is what town does, post 242 states the opposite of that truth sarcastically

I’m here and reading. I don’t really have much to add at this moment.

In post 256, popsofctown wrote:I don't understand how they're at odds.
You know post 242 has seventy sarcasm tags right
volxen is gathering new information to potentially change his stance because he is probtown, because that is what town does, post 242 states the opposite of that truth sarcastically

ok

I should be able to come and post some thoughts later tonight.

In post 258, Sujimichi wrote:I’m here and reading. I don’t really have much to add at this moment.

You don't have any thoughts on Pops, Pine, or my slot?

- Volxen (Definitely Town)

I WILL BE IN NYC TOMORROW!!!!!!!

Sorry about things, I'd been busy yesterday.

Also, most of the people I care most about sorting aren't really here, so that also is inconvenient.

Well, bitbringer, care to respond (in case you missed my 165)?

Anyways, DNS, questions for you, since you seem to be the only one around that I'm interested in.

Why did you unvote Pine earlier? And are you scumreading tris? Also, what was the point of saying that you can confirm yourself town and claiming you had a neighbourhood so early?

I kind of think this is town tris, but I've really only played one game with her, so I'll have to look more into her scum games.

I don't think it's right to force content, even in a hypothetical scenario where it's [scum] that is not on top of things

Honestly? I've made the mistake before to assume town was just bored and trying to speak circular logic to one another, but then again an inactive [town] can lead to some anxious or even opportunistic scum to start pushing a narrative about the pace of the game. I'm not saying that what's happening, but RN I feel Pine has some explaining to do and I'm not ready to call this game solved with active posters very likely town

Where I'm tentatively at, wouldn't be shocked to be wrong about one of those townreads (see: previous post) but I digress

@unwnd
Why is pops your strongest townread?
And why is Lady Angel on the higher side of null?

I mean, even though I said 'im not ready to call active posters all town' and then proceeded to do it, I think what's happening right now that I am willing to believe it despite a certain doubt. With pops, it's pretty much the same feeling where I feel she's spent a lot of time uh..wasting time in ways that don't seem to have an ulterior motive. If her goal as scum is to be impressively aloof in the way she presents her arguments to fool others she can just win the game at this point. I also think DNS/Pops probably isn't some SvS and maybe even SvT

And why is Lady Angel on the higher side of null?

From memory, nothing that stood out to be scummy but also not towny, but inoffensive in a way that I didn't think further about her posts. With Weh/Dunn their nullness could have more of an underbelly, but not enough where I'd put them any lower where they are. Abu/Suji needed a spot to be and they got below Weh/Dunn probably due to my personal bias towards Weh/Dunn seeing how I said I could expect them to have some goal towards being null lol

In post 258, Sujimichi wrote:I’m here and reading. I don’t really have much to add at this moment.

Why are you voting pops?

In post 261, Definitely Not Scum wrote:

In post 258, Sujimichi wrote:I’m here and reading. I don’t really have much to add at this moment.

You don't have any thoughts on Pops, Pine, or my slot?

- Volxen (Definitely Town)

I have thoughts, yes. I don't have anything productive though.

In post 269, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 258, Sujimichi wrote:I’m here and reading. I don’t really have much to add at this moment.

Why are you voting pops?

I made it for humor at the time. I don't really have a reason currently.

In post 268, unwnd wrote:

And why is Lady Angel on the higher side of null?

From memory, nothing that stood out to be scummy but also not towny, but inoffensive in a way that I didn't think further about her posts. With Weh/Dunn their nullness could have more of an underbelly, but not enough where I'd put them any lower where they are. Abu/Suji needed a spot to be and they got below Weh/Dunn probably due to my personal bias towards Weh/Dunn seeing how I said I could expect them to have some goal towards being null lol

Huh, I dislike her reason for voting DNS, I don't think it really makes sense. She's also not really commented on Pine beyond subtly calling him not-scummy.


As for pops, I guess she's alright, but a fair bit of the stuff she's saying feels like it's going over my head. I think GIF is townier, though, although it probably doesn't matter much.

In post 268, unwnd wrote:From memory, nothing that stood out to be scummy but also not towny, but inoffensive in a way that I didn't think further about her posts.

And this is after my post being considered?

In post 260, AbuHumaid wrote:I should be able to come and post some thoughts later tonight.

And I'll be waiting