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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:06 am
by Something_Smart
In post 249, Menalque wrote:Like not aggressively so but it seems like a lot of whatever anyone is posting you’re shutting down before it gets off the ground
No I'm not, why would you think that
:P

That's kinda my MO, especially early-game.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:20 am
by Menalque
I just don’t particularly remember you doing this in other games so it seems a lil off

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:20 am
by Menalque
Although I’m not sure how many games we’ve actually played from the start together

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:22 am
by FakeGod
VoteCount 1.1


Iconeum [4] - alimdia, Datisi, Salamence20, AaronFrost
AaronFrost [1] - texcat
GuiltyLion [1] - Menalque
Datisi [1] - GuiltyLion
Salamence20 [3] - DrDolittle, Iconeum, Creature
alimdia [1] - Amrun

Not Voting [3]
- Something_Smart, Pretentious, Dogwatch

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to be chosen.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2019-12-11 13:35:31)

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:32 am
by DrDolittle
amrun im glad you shifted back to your old avi

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:33 am
by DrDolittle
i dont really get scum vibes from ico this game.
i could do aafrost

i might just roll through day 1 sheeping creature

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:44 am
by Amrun
In post 254, DrDolittle wrote:amrun im glad you shifted back to your old avi
I lost it. This isn’t quite it but it’s a troll one I made based on it. I found this one so...!

It was only meant to be a temporary change to brag about my scummy but then I left site. :lol:

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:30 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 156, Datisi wrote:
In post 144, GuiltyLion wrote:I guess I would then clarify that it's jokingly correcting Mena but then not doing anything else that I find scummy, not the act of correcting itself
Err, what else was I supposed to do? Or are you referring to me being absent from the thread in general?
I think it's fundamentally just that I disagree with you that Menalque is likely to be thinking "3 is the correct number but I'm going to joke that it's only 2 people are scum". I thought it was town-indicative if not a straight townslip and I felt some kinda recognition that it was +town-indicative was missing from how you replied to him.

What's your read on Menalque now?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:34 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 205, Menalque wrote:Also thought this was super noncommittal and I also think GL would be quite likely to want me to TR him after nomination mafia
what do you think I should have committed to there that I didn't commit to?

I do want you to TR me but I'm kinda confident it'll happen organically I'm not trying to force it

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:35 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 207, Menalque wrote:Like wanting to be seen to do something beyond RVS
lmao I really do get scumread for this all the time

I want to do something beyond RVS, I don't just want to be
seen
for that. Scum!me usually would rather not be seen at all and the way I play as town is actually kinda hard for me to emulate as scum because it tends to draw this attention

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:36 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 233, AaronFrost wrote:Even if Icon is considered 'mislynchable' I'm still going to push actions I find scummy and right now I'm not a fan of it giving Mena towncred for something he shouldn't get towncred for.
what's your read on Menalque then?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:38 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 250, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 249, Menalque wrote:Like not aggressively so but it seems like a lot of whatever anyone is posting you’re shutting down before it gets off the ground
No I'm not, why would you think that
:P

That's kinda my MO, especially early-game.
yeah if I may butt in here this is like classic S_S and I have clashed with him many times over it, I think this is a more townie game from him so far

as for my reads in general I'm townreading Sala, Menalque, Dogwatch, Creature, S_S, Ico. I don't think the Ico wagon is very good and would like to make another attempt to kickstart the AF one

VOTE: AaronFrost

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:41 am
by Datisi
In post 257, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 156, Datisi wrote:
In post 144, GuiltyLion wrote:I guess I would then clarify that it's jokingly correcting Mena but then not doing anything else that I find scummy, not the act of correcting itself
Err, what else was I supposed to do? Or are you referring to me being absent from the thread in general?
I think it's fundamentally just that I disagree with you that Menalque is likely to be thinking "3 is the correct number but I'm going to joke that it's only 2 people are scum". I thought it was town-indicative if not a straight townslip and I felt some kinda recognition that it was +town-indicative was missing from how you replied to him.

What's your read on Menalque now?
Hm. I guess it's agree to disagree since I think that (1) town!Mena would definitely know how many scum there are and (2) scum!Mena's got enough of a brain to fake a ~townslip~ like that.

He's a Townlean. Other than general ~tone~, and make me think that was because (1) I think I'd be someone scum!him would try to pocket so idk if he'd post , and if he was using it as basis for puching me later then I doubt he'd be BoP-ing himself wth (since it is true).

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:42 am
by Datisi
What's the case against Aaron, GL?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:42 am
by GuiltyLion
the case is he's making scummy posts, especially with how he reacted to and exaggerated Creature's posts around him and the way he's shading Ico for townreading Menalque

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:45 am
by DogWatch
In post 264, GuiltyLion wrote:the case is he's making scummy posts, especially with how he reacted to and exaggerated Creature's posts around him and the way he's shading Ico for townreading Menalque
Personally his reaction to Creature (post 230) I kinda agreed with, but I think him moving to Ico right after was weird.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:46 am
by GuiltyLion
put plainly I don't think there was anything "gross" or "inconsistent" about Creature's posts

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:52 am
by DogWatch
Maybe not 'gross' but 176 pinged me somewhat. I couldn't follow the progression from scumreading AF, then scumreading sal and alim while stating he needs a third. Well, wouldn't AF be the third? And I don't think any of those reads were explained. So, I'd love to see Creature's response.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:53 am
by DogWatch
btw GL, to answer you from the start of the game... we played some Oddrole games together :D I was ginghamdog.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:53 am
by AaronFrost
In post 236, Menalque wrote:Like you just called a whole series of creatures posts “gross and inconsistent” then voted a player who is often mislynched as town

Why is icon giving me towncred there worse than what you object to about creature’s posts?
I only have one vote. I don't necessarily think either one is scummier than the other, but those are the two players that stuck out as scummy to me so I picked one.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:56 am
by AaronFrost
In post 260, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 233, AaronFrost wrote:Even if Icon is considered 'mislynchable' I'm still going to push actions I find scummy and right now I'm not a fan of it giving Mena towncred for something he shouldn't get towncred for.
what's your read on Menalque then?
Townlean, but not because of the 'slip.' I think his posts show a general townie mindset. 200 and 204 especially felt very townie to me.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:57 am
by AaronFrost
In post 261, GuiltyLion wrote:I'm townreading Sala, Menalque, Dogwatch, Creature, S_S, Ico. I don't think the Ico wagon is very good and would like to make another attempt to kickstart the AF one
Explain Salamence, Dogwatch and Creature for me.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:01 am
by AaronFrost
In post 264, GuiltyLion wrote:the case is he's making scummy posts, especially with how he reacted to and exaggerated Creature's posts around him and the way he's shading Ico for townreading Menalque
That's... not at all my problem with Icon. My issue is the reason he's townreading Menalque, because of a 'townslip' that isn't actually a townslip.

I'm confused how you don't see the inconsistency in Creature's posts. Knowing how Creature plays, I assumed the naked vote on me was serious, but then in 176 he says both Salamence and alimdia are scum and 'now I need a third' implying he doesn't know who the third is. Then he later confirms the vote was serious.

Like okay there's your third then. Why did you omit that?

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:15 am
by Pretentious
I dangle myself out in front of scum like a piece of delicious cake.

I literally bait myself in being mislynched to scum.

I am mislynch bait.

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:35 am
by Amrun
In post 209, DogWatch wrote:maybe i'm not seeing it from the perspective of someone who thinks he's being buddied, but GL's iso looks sound to me

unvoting my rvs

UNVOTE: GL

Why bother with this and not placing your vote elsewhere?