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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:48 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 249, Detective Pikachu wrote:
Not really but idk you're not trying to socialize either and town early can sometimes be more laid back and you don't feel laid back to me rn
Define ‘socialize’ in this context?
I’m not usually laid back when I’m called scum based on nothing, that’s true.
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:50 pm
by Detective Pikachu
It's hard to articulate
Hit me with a reads list when you feel more caught up and organized
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:55 pm
by Luca Blight
This is what I mean by ‘forced’ - your read on me feels entirely rushed and fabricated.
You say I’m scum for not answering RQS - I ask why is it scummy, you said because scum sometimes pick fights. I ask ‘was I picking a fight by not answering them’ you’re like ‘not really, but you’re scummy for no socializing and not laid back’.
So you’re moving the goalposts, can’t explain what you even mean by socializing in this context, and SR me for not being laid back, which is normal for someone who is being attacked?
I like my vote here for now.
VOTE: Pikachu
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:59 pm
by Detective Pikachu
so you do feel caught up then?
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:02 pm
by Luca Blight
I voted you based on the present conversation we just had, not from having caught up?
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:04 pm
by Detective Pikachu
Ok but your reasoning for voting me is based on things you think I'm scumreading you for and not the reasons I'm scumreading you for, so it helps to know if you feel caught up or not
In any case I'd still like a reads list when you can
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:05 pm
by Luca Blight
Why are you scumreading me, then?
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:05 pm
by Detective Pikachu
Hmm natsu, arthur, and luca all have cognitive load but only 2 are scum
Still ok with luca/arthur for the moment tho
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:06 pm
by Detective Pikachu
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:08 pm
by Luca Blight
Based entirely on RVS posts, which is what I said before.
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:12 pm
by Detective Pikachu
Yeah but then when I invited you to take some solve you decided that the reason you wanted me to be scumreading you was for rqs which I don't even remember talking about so now I feel like you've responded to a 2-man wagon with omgus, strawmanning, and defensiveness. And still 0 solving
Like if you're aware you have a slow start you could come in and solve and be aware people may push you for activity for legitimate reasons but instead you're both aware you're scummy but still feel the need to overreact to the person pushing you
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:14 pm
by Detective Pikachu
Like accusing me of moving the goalposts is silly when you're the one who set up the goalposts; if you didn't understand the reasons for my scumread you'd probably ask. I feel like I was pretty clear that my main problem with you was the lack of obvtowning when I feel you're capable of it
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:17 pm
by Luca Blight
Strawmanning? You literally said I was scum for not answering RQS, don’t try to make out I’m misreppng you.
I’ve defended myself by being defensive? Oh, how awful.
I’ve already said I will catch-up when I get home, that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t engage you right now on what I feel is an opportunistic push.
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:18 pm
by Detective Pikachu
I guess the other way of saying a lack of socializing would be to say that this feels like a "wolfy pop in" although I don't like that phrase. But the concept is there insofar as up until now you come into the thread, leave 2-3 posts that engage with no one present, and then vanish
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:19 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 261, Detective Pikachu wrote:Like accusing me of moving the goalposts is silly when you're the one who set up the goalposts; if you didn't understand the reasons for my scumread you'd probably ask. I feel like I was pretty clear that my main problem with you was the lack of obvtowning when I feel you're capable of it
Ah, so I was the one who said I’m scum for avoiding RQS?
I’ve engaged you on all your reasons for SR’ing me, you’re zoning in on that one because you know it’s the most ridiculous and now you’re trying to distance yourself from it.
Going now, will be back later with my catch-up.
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:20 pm
by Detective Pikachu
B
This is not saying you're scum because you didn't answer rqs, it's saying you didn't answer rqs because you're scum. And it was also half joking
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:21 pm
by Detective Pikachu
Like that's a while after I state my scumread on you lol
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:22 pm
by Detective Pikachu
In post 264, Luca Blight wrote: In post 261, Detective Pikachu wrote:Like accusing me of moving the goalposts is silly when you're the one who set up the goalposts; if you didn't understand the reasons for my scumread you'd probably ask. I feel like I was pretty clear that my main problem with you was the lack of obvtowning when I feel you're capable of it
Ah, so I was the one who said I’m scum for avoiding RQS?
I’ve engaged you on all your reasons for SR’ing me, you’re zoning in on that one because you know it’s the most ridiculous and now you’re trying to distance yourself from it.
1- basically, yes
2-engaging me is not what I asked for
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:48 pm
by DkKoba
In post 252, Luca Blight wrote:This is what I mean by ‘forced’ - your read on me feels entirely rushed and fabricated.
You say I’m scum for not answering RQS - I ask why is it scummy, you said because scum sometimes pick fights. I ask ‘was I picking a fight by not answering them’ you’re like ‘not really, but you’re scummy for no socializing and not laid back’.
So you’re moving the goalposts, can’t explain what you even mean by socializing in this context, and SR me for not being laid back, which is normal for someone who is being attacked?
I like my vote here for now.
VOTE: Pikachu
I read Pikachu's tone as town so I'm curious as to why you think it is scum?
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:58 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 122, ROUND ONE wrote:Detective Pikachu wrote:
Its a maximum not a requirement
yeah, majority is a thing I know
the issue is people tend to not want to hammer unless its further through the game or late game
No sense to rush, the more time spent discussing the better. Dangle that noose for scum to slip their neck through.
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:18 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 102, Hectic wrote:I actually kinda like Natsu's answers.
Why'd you unvote, Doro? And to answer your question: if it's a vague indirect reference to an on going game, would probably not mention it. But otherwise, I'd let them know they shouldn't be doing that.
WHY do you "kinda like" natsu's answers?
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:24 pm
by 72offsuit
Don't really like this post - after DK has voiced annoyance at DP's gimmicky posting
and AC has criticised DP's town-to-scum-scale based off his RVS reads
- drumming up anti-pikachu vibes rather than pointing out any scummyness
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:25 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 118, dsjstr wrote: In post 10, Hectic wrote:Hey, friends!
I'm quite new, so is it okay if I lurk this game and try to learn from the more experienced people? Also, should we mass claim? It could be useful to talk about who we target in the night. I will start: I am the Town Goon. I am not allowed to target anyone in the night.
VOTE: 72offsuit
If we convince town to lynch one of the SE's today then we can NK the other
Lol.. love the gif. Well that would be different from last game, where all 3 SE's went to the last day 3-way lylo
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:37 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 199, Hectic wrote:Mostly for
28 tbh. I agree with most of the thoughts in
184, but maybe I'm being buddyed. He just hasn't done anything wrong so far. What don't you like?
I fail to see why you like his post 28.
Last game I played, the "placeholder vote" - "ill park my vote here for now, for no good reason at all" - sort of vote , ended up being a vote by scum.
And i think this kind of move is scummy. I think townies are more likely to change their mind and shift their votes organically, rather than b stilted, which i think is scummy.
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:45 pm
by 72offsuit
I'm pretty sure we have moved past RVS - my definition of RVS phase anyway. Players have stated FoSes and have switched votes.
There is now some, yes limited, but some material to go off now