Micro 922: Strawberry Mafia (Game over!)

[Compath]

@Clidd - How is your Iconeum read different from the null reads you have on Luca and DDL?

Why did you basically completely ignore slaxx?

Why do you need something to "radically" change your opinion in order to not scumread Ame, despite stating that you only find them to be slightly suspicious?

Why is playing a character town-indicative for Hectic? In my opinion, it'd be scum-indicative because he gets to hide behind the character that he's playing.

What specifically did you find scummy in Kanna/my RQS answers? Did you find the fact that we quickly complied with RQS to be scummy, or something else?

yknow

these questions

[clidd]

Yes, soon.

[Compath]

Woah I got a pagetop for once.

I have dethroned Datisi.

[Slaxx]

im feeling generous. gonna hand out a couple of preemptive town reads:
ame compath ico and kanna for now.

please come up and claim your rewards

I would praise the inaccuracy in your reads, but I believe you will probably find out eventually.

I really really don't like this post either, while I am on this train. I can't articulate it like the other posts, but it feels like something that really does not come from town, especially in the first 5-9 pages. Like who is this confident of their reads they are willing to mock other players this early?

Why wouldn't it come from a town ?

I consider myself to be one of the more cocky town players on the site, and I just don't see how you can be confident enough to mock another player for their reads this early in. There is always an air of uncertainty townspeople enter the game with while they nail down how they feel, and it you are completely devoid of it in this post.

I am always confident that my reads will lead to some information, sometimes correct, otherwise I correct it. I don't know where that interpersonal trait you mentioned implies anything about it.

"I am confident my reads will lead to some information" is not the same as "I am confident in my reads in to mock DDL". I've talked to lawyers that manipulate language less than this.

[clidd]

im feeling generous. gonna hand out a couple of preemptive town reads:
ame compath ico and kanna for now.

please come up and claim your rewards

I would praise the inaccuracy in your reads, but I believe you will probably find out eventually.

I really really don't like this post either, while I am on this train. I can't articulate it like the other posts, but it feels like something that really does not come from town, especially in the first 5-9 pages. Like who is this confident of their reads they are willing to mock other players this early?

Why wouldn't it come from a town ?

I consider myself to be one of the more cocky town players on the site, and I just don't see how you can be confident enough to mock another player for their reads this early in. There is always an air of uncertainty townspeople enter the game with while they nail down how they feel, and it you are completely devoid of it in this post.

I am always confident that my reads will lead to some information, sometimes correct, otherwise I correct it. I don't know where that interpersonal trait you mentioned implies anything about it.

"I am confident my reads will lead to some information" is not the same as "I am confident in my reads in to mock DDL". I've talked to lawyers that manipulate language less than this.

Hum, ok.

[Ame]

Uncomfortable at the lack of strawberries gracing this page

Slaxx and Hectic are my picks.

Luca and Compath as backups.

[Luca Blight]

Ok. Also what were you hoping to gain here:

Your turn, Ame.

I was curious as to your own answers.

Will you answer the questions?

[clidd]

Clidd feels like he's trying too hard to be honest.

@Clidd - How is your Iconeum read different from the null reads you have on Luca and DDL?

Why did you basically completely ignore slaxx?

Why do you need something to "radically" change your opinion in order to not scumread Ame, despite stating that you only find them to be slightly suspicious?

Why is playing a character town-indicative for Hectic? In my opinion, it'd be scum-indicative because he gets to hide behind the character that he's playing.

What specifically did you find scummy in Kanna/my RQS answers? Did you find the fact that we quickly complied with RQS to be scummy, or something else?

1. It depends on whether I can differentiate the questioning between

Iconeum

and

Ame

, considering that it could be the beginning of a possible death tunnel, or just a different line of thought. I have seen this kind of attitude before, so I wanted to confirm that the intention, too, would be the same. Based on that, it is like a ''

Joker

'', as it can take both sides depending on the interpretation of a specific attitude, post or action.

2. There is no specific reason, considering that I forgot about him during the reasoning. I have been overloading myself recently, so it's not uncommon for this to happen. As I saw that it had happened, I thought about directing a question to him, so that I didn't have to rewrite my post and read his ISO.

3. Because it is a progressive sensation, that starts small and intensifies as the interactions happen. Already predicting this, I used the term to justify if, later, I changed my mind, through some significant post or event.

4. Well, that would mean talking about games in progress, which is forbidden, but basically it's not something normal coming from

scum!Hectic

that I expect. And, also, it seems like an activity that he is enjoying doing and demands editing time, so I believe that, in this context, it would not be used in bad faith. But, of course, it would make sense if he sought to switch to narration in order to disrupt the behavioral read of his posts, in that case, it would be up to you to judge it as bad or not.

5. In a simple way, it would be the parallel that I drew with one of my two games as scum. It was not conclusive, but intigative to promote an interaction between us, like the one that is happening right now.

[Luca Blight]

Uncomfortable at the lack of strawberries gracing this page

Slaxx and Hectic are my picks.

Luca and Compath as backups.

This is based on the answers, or generally?

I want to see your own answers and explanations for how you reached your conclusions.

[Luca Blight]

Also can't really describe it but Icon is giving me decent town feelz. I think my list is probably

(Ame, Compath, DDL, Icon)-Slight Town
(Luca, Kanna)-Null
(Hectic)- Slight Scum
(Clidd)- Scum

It's interesting how Slaxx ignores mine and Kanna's suspicion of him and just plants us both as 'null'.

I think it's very unlikely Clidd is scum this game btw based on meta.

[Slaxx]

Also can't really describe it but Icon is giving me decent town feelz. I think my list is probably

(Ame, Compath, DDL, Icon)-Slight Town
(Luca, Kanna)-Null
(Hectic)- Slight Scum
(Clidd)- Scum

It's interesting how Slaxx ignores mine and Kanna's suspicion of him and just plants us both as 'null'.

I think it's very unlikely Clidd is scum this game btw based on meta.

I don't, but I will bite. What makes you think that based on meta?

And I think literally every person has scum read me or at least commented on something I have done as scummy at this point, so you might be seeing patterns where patterns don't exist. I am not going to spend time refuting eight different people's suspicions of me, my time is best spent generating content by pressing people I think are scummy.

[Slaxx]

Slaxx

Posts 59 - 61 all seem like reads for the sake of reads. I don't relate to any of them at all and it seems contrived.

78 is a bit weird - I thought Ame was joking about the answer key? Although I can't tell if Slaxx is being serious here himself, but he certainly seems to be taking what Ame said at face value.

Also, how exactly do I respond to this any way? It seems a lot of people are scumreading me because I took Ame seriously when he was joking and misread DDL's tone in his post. I think the only other thing that has come up is my 66, which I have assumed people think is me trying to look town, which is a little insulting (I can do better as scum), but once again, not much to refute. Not a lot of people have tried to ask me questions or engage me, it has all been peppered in to longer posts.

[Slaxx]

Slaxx

Posts 59 - 61 all seem like reads for the sake of reads. I don't relate to any of them at all and it seems contrived.

78 is a bit weird - I thought Ame was joking about the answer key? Although I can't tell if Slaxx is being serious here himself, but he certainly seems to be taking what Ame said at face value.

Also, how exactly do I respond to this any way? It seems a lot of people are scumreading me because I took Ame seriously when he was joking and misread DDL's tone in his post. I think the only other thing that has come up is my 66, which I have assumed people think is me trying to look town, which is a little insulting (I can do better as scum), but once again, not much to refute. Not a lot of people have tried to ask me questions or engage me, it has all been peppered in to longer posts.

[clidd]

Someone is nervous.

[Luca Blight]

Clidd hates playing as scum - I played against scum!Clidd twice and he replaced out both times right at the start. This game resembles his Town meta. I can find examples later if need be, but I'm pretty confident he's Town.

I just found it interesting as I think both me and Kanna have enough content to be judged on either way, and the fact we both SR you makes it seem as though you're sweeping it under the carpet. If someone is attacking me when I'm Town I usually become more curious as to whether the attack is scum-motivated or not, but you just entirely ignored it which seemed off.

Gonna get some food, will be back in about half an hour.

[Slaxx]

Clidd hates playing as scum - I played against scum!Clidd twice and he replaced out both times right at the start. This game resembles his Town meta. I can find examples later if need be, but I'm pretty confident he's Town.

I just found it interesting as I think both me and Kanna have enough content to be judged on either way, and the fact we both SR you makes it seem as though you're sweeping it under the carpet. If someone is attacking me when I'm Town I usually become more curious as to whether the attack is scum-motivated or not, but you just entirely ignored it which seemed off.

Gonna get some food, will be back in about half an hour.

I'd like examples, because nothing about this seems like town play to me. Especially the two side swipes he has taken at me ("Someone is nervous" and "You remind me of Espeonage" without ever trying to actually sort me or explain why he thinks I am scum).

If anyone can find me a Clidd game where he is town and plays this cockily and close to the chest I'm open to changing my mind.

[Slaxx]

Clidd hates playing as scum - I played against scum!Clidd twice and he replaced out both times right at the start. This game resembles his Town meta. I can find examples later if need be, but I'm pretty confident he's Town.

I just found it interesting as I think both me and Kanna have enough content to be judged on either way, and the fact we both SR you makes it seem as though you're sweeping it under the carpet. If someone is attacking me when I'm Town I usually become more curious as to whether the attack is scum-motivated or not, but you just entirely ignored it which seemed off.

Gonna get some food, will be back in about half an hour.

Let's say I took time to question every single person who has scumread me this game. Are you absolutely sure you would be reading me any differently then? I can see the narrative now being that I am spending too much time focused on what other people thinking of me and not enough actually sorting.

[Compath]

I played against scum!Clidd twice and he replaced out both times right at the start

Yikes...

[Ame]

@compath from 0 to 10 how upset?

Upset about what?

if you were lynched. You answered yes, what # would you give it?

Ok. Also what were you hoping to gain here:

Your turn, Ame.

I was curious as to your own answers.

Will you answer the questions?

Sure! Give me just a bit

[Slaxx]

Are we seriously still doing RQS?

[Slaxx]

oh christ.

I am reading Micro 915 | Brass & Shrapnel and Clidd is actually that fucking cocky about his reads as town. And hilariously wrong that game. Okay, Luca, do you have any knowledge of games where he is scum?

UNVOTE:

[Slaxx]

I mean ones he actually played?

[Slaxx]

VOTE: Hectic

This is better now I think.

[clidd]

oh christ.

I am reading Micro 915 | Brass & Shrapnel and Clidd is actually that fucking cocky about his reads as town. And hilariously wrong that game. Okay, Luca, do you have any knowledge of games where he is scum?

UNVOTE:

Interesting how you specifically selected this game, forgetting Micro 918, for example. Perhaps the chemical reactions in your body are affecting your thinking.

Micro 918

--> https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=81962

[Slaxx]

Dude, I was looking for a single game to falsify my read on you and I got lucky and found it right away. Take the out.