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Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:29 am**

In post 185, DrDolittle wrote:does day play matter when there are 16 killing roles?

I don't think you're interpreting the setup right.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:29 am**

In post 149, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.
Also, do you all honestly think I’m still toxic?

Hey, TSE. Here you imply role information, then do fuck all with it. If you know for a fact, either you have specific info on a single player, or you have some broader "there are x scum in players abc" type knowledge, or you're scum and hinting that you're being bussed like Nero suggests. If you don't, you're completely full of shit.

If you have role info that means town can make a better lynch, then hinting at it rather than outing it means you're already playing badly in an anti town way.

If you're hinting bus, you're scum.

If you're just making it up to try to redirect attention away from you to your Wagoners, then you're being kinda toxic already.

So ten pages in, I'm already left thinking you're either scum, playing really badly, or toxic.

Your Nero vote is pretty bad -even if he's slightly misreading one post, he's showing scumhunting motive. It reads omgus at best, which is not inherently scummy but is a thing I've seen you do that contributes to your perceived toxicity.

So let's turn the volume down. If your "I know there's scum" thing is just your usual overconfidence, then admit that now, and I at least will let it slide. Then tell me something you've noticed about a player NOT on your wagon, and not relating to something they've said about you. Can be anything game relevant. I feel like if you direct your energy at scumhunting on your own wagon, it will continue to come across as defensive and omgussy and look toxic or scummy, making the wagon a self fulfilling prophecy. If you want to help town, look elsewhere, except if you genuinely DO have helpful role info.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:32 am**

I can answer, it is. And that's why I don't see Nero's point as valid.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:34 am**

In post 232, Nero Cain wrote:I think i've been pretty clear with why I scum read him. maybe read my posts?

In post 233, insomnia wrote:That's not exactly what I would describe as efficient hunting.

Nero is more likely than not town based on the previous couple of pages.
I don't disagree with your characterization.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:35 am**

In post 241, insomnia wrote:Even I agree with that and I have a ton of meta with Seth. Mind explaining?

I've lost track of who Seth is. Please use player names, thanks.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:40 am**

In post 252, insomnia wrote:I can answer, it is. And that's why I don't see Nero's point as valid.

Is that aimed at me? Hard to tell with all the ninjas.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:41 am**

I thought for sure people would be posting more in between my catch up posts. Apparently I arrived at the tail end of the 10 page burst.
Faction Ratio is 37:6:6:1. I saw a traitor tell. If there is a traitor (or two for balance) how does that affect the published ratio?

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:43 am**

In post 255, The Fonz wrote:
In post 252, insomnia wrote:I can answer, it is. And that's why I don't see Nero's point as valid.
Is that aimed at me? Hard to tell with all the ninjas.

yeah

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:46 am**

In post 257, insomnia wrote:
In post 255, The Fonz wrote:
In post 252, insomnia wrote:I can answer, it is. And that's why I don't see Nero's point as valid.
Is that aimed at me? Hard to tell with all the ninjas.
yeah

And when you say "It is" what are you confirming?

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:48 am**

In post 251, The Fonz wrote:It reads omgus at best, which is not inherently scummy but is a thing I've seen you do that contributes to your perceived toxicity.

So let's turn the volume down. If your "I know there's scum" thing is just your usual overconfidence,
then admit that now
, and I at least will let it slide.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:51 am**

In post 259, insomnia wrote:
In post 251, The Fonz wrote:It reads omgus at best, which is not inherently scummy but is a thing I've seen you do that contributes to your perceived toxicity.

So let's turn the volume down. If your "I know there's scum" thing is just your usual overconfidence,
then admit that now
, and I at least will let it slide.

OK. Sorry I was confused because after that I said "Unless you genuinely do have role info" so I didn't know if you were confirming he did have info or the opposite, which is kind of important.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:53 am**

@insomnia, how would you know for sure that it's overconfidence?

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:58 am**

VOTE: No Lynch

Unless half this player list is down to lynch garmr scum

I really think this is the right day 1 move just with how impossible it will be to create wagons

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:59 am**

VOTE: BBmolla

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:59 am**

In post 256, davesaz wrote:I thought for sure people would be posting more in between my catch up posts. Apparently I arrived at the tail end of the 10 page burst.
Faction Ratio is 37:6:6:1. I saw a traitor tell. If there is a traitor (or two for balance) how does that affect the published ratio?

A traitor in this huge ass setup seems stupid with Multiball. You can have 1 scum team with a traitor or 2 scumteams. Having Both is overkill.

What might be a "traitor" tell is probably a scum interacting with a scum from another team.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:00 am**

TSE is the type of guy to vote within the first post in LyLo even though his locked town reads specifically told him not to. In a high-stakes game with all-stars. He doesn't give no crap. I know it because I was in that game with him, in LyLo.

He bends reality to push his scum reads. His cases almost never make sense, but he makes them appear like they make sense just based off power and drive and constantly rephrasing his point.

My experience with him tells me that he's overconfident in general, but actually figuring if he's being overconfident here or just slipped is a subtle thing to discern. Again, I'd need to have a scum read on him based off other things in order to consider this, which I don't at the moment. I guess I don't know for sure that it's overconfidence. At face value, it does look like it though. Again, I'd scum read him based on other stuff though, not this, just because this virtually seems like a dice roll. I'd rather wait.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:00 am**

In post 238, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 213, Jackal711 wrote:So this has started. And at 9 pages already, Which honestly seems low for a game this big even though it's only been 4 hours.

I see a lot of fluff but do have one solid scumread.

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy
I kinda hate this pop in & vote actually

VOTE: Jackal

I don’t like the fact that they just plop it on me without reasoning.
It’s like their looking for a safe place to plop a vote down.

VOTE: Jackel

Scum Reads:
Jackel and Nero.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:00 am**

Spamming is super fucking anti town in this game so please make your posts count

l8r

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:01 am**

In post 262, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: No Lynch

Unless half this player list is down to lynch garmr scum

I really think this is the right day 1 move just with how impossible it will be to create wagons

That's the worst option I've seen yet. Not worth a vote from me, atleast, but still very stupid.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:01 am**

I don't think there are any traitors this and its either dumb town trying to be goofy/slayer gambit or scum playing the "2 scummy 2 b scum" card.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:01 am**

Ego - busy

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:02 am**

In post 199, Nero Cain wrote:well you didn't say "at least" you said there was one and you phrased it as a fact. "There is 1 scum on my wagon" not "I think there is 1 scum"

Well it doesn’t really matter how many there are.
But since we are on the topic.
How many scum do

You

think is on my wagon?

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:03 am**

In post 200, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 149, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.
there is no "I think" here.

u said u knew. How would u know?

and to be honest, a game with 13 scum and u pick the lowest possible # seems a bit...eh

Because I don’t believe my wagon to be pure town.

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:04 am**

Actually, better idea

VOTE: insomnia

I’m just gonna vote top poster all day

Last post, see you in 24 hours

Posted: **Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:05 am**

i think there are vigs for that

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