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In post 207, HK 50 wrote:

In post 172, Malakittens wrote:

In post 165, HK 50 wrote:

In post 138, Malakittens wrote:Hm. I really did just like HK 137. But I want to see how that progresses

In post 144, Malakittens wrote:That post has a bad gut feeling, but will wait for redemption

[Interrogation:

Master Malakitten, you have made several posts showing a stance without explaining it nor fully committing to it. Please explain your pings. Has the interaction with master bob3141 reached a finite conclusion read wise considering you town ping both of us?

Right now I’m liking bob’s posts. The way he’s going about is very similar to the last game we played together. I’m starting to see you scum hunting while you’re using your gimmick. A lot of players that use gimmicks hide behind it and don’t actually scum hunt. So that give me town pings.

Where as Battle Mange is the post I was referring to that felt a scum ping IMO. That’s way before he even thought I was OMGUSing him.

[Rebuttal:]

I can understand the town pings, but do you also have knowledge of scum!bob3141?

I understand the context of the master battle mage ping. I'm asking you to explain what in the original post sticks out as scummy in your eyes.

I have not personally seen scum bob, have you?

I guess looking back on BM posts it looks like he was kidding at the end, but it feels weird to just jump onto a big wagon when we aren’t in RVS. It just felt ~weird~ and then coupled by the rest of his posts I have no clue what to do with him. It’s just he’s all over the place, but he isn’t a new player so that excuse is not valid.

In post 250, Malakittens wrote:

In post 207, HK 50 wrote:

In post 172, Malakittens wrote:

In post 165, HK 50 wrote:

In post 138, Malakittens wrote:Hm. I really did just like HK 137. But I want to see how that progresses

In post 144, Malakittens wrote:That post has a bad gut feeling, but will wait for redemption

[Interrogation:

Master Malakitten, you have made several posts showing a stance without explaining it nor fully committing to it. Please explain your pings. Has the interaction with master bob3141 reached a finite conclusion read wise considering you town ping both of us?

Right now I’m liking bob’s posts. The way he’s going about is very similar to the last game we played together. I’m starting to see you scum hunting while you’re using your gimmick. A lot of players that use gimmicks hide behind it and don’t actually scum hunt. So that give me town pings.

Where as Battle Mange is the post I was referring to that felt a scum ping IMO. That’s way before he even thought I was OMGUSing him.

[Rebuttal:]

I can understand the town pings, but do you also have knowledge of scum!bob3141?

I understand the context of the master battle mage ping. I'm asking you to explain what in the original post sticks out as scummy in your eyes.

I have not personally seen scum bob, have you?

I guess looking back on BM posts it looks like he was kidding at the end, but it feels weird to just jump onto a big wagon when we aren’t in RVS. It just felt ~weird~ and then coupled by the rest of his posts I have no clue what to do with him. It’s just he’s all over the place, but he isn’t a new player so that excuse is not valid.

I'd been V/LA since the start, I'm entitled to an RVS on my own!

In post 240, stungun0404 wrote:VOTE: Geraintm

Absolutely nothing in their ISO thus far points to scumhunting, and I do not like that. Especially paired together with their commitment to stalling that they admitted to in 108 by saying "you all do you, i'm going to wait until things become more clear."

That does not settle right with me at all.

I have nothing at the moment. day 1 people talk but it doesn't mean anything. votes are the important thing and there just haven't been many so far. I'm very much the type of person who looks at people's voting patterns and trying to either spot inconsistencies or really, really bad logic used to justify them

when I say you all do you, it is just me saying I don't have the mental capacity to argue over perceived slights, misunderstandings or whatever

In post 148, notscience wrote:Why?

Lol, because I didn't like the Mala push out of nowhere.

Btw farside feels town for sheeping me in the post below yours.

Catching up

In post 160, Battle Mage wrote:I'm bored and people love ambitious plays on Day 1, so I'm gonna go with:

Green Crayons, Malakittens, Notscience and HK50 for scum.

Completely disagree with all of these takes.

In post 165, HK 50 wrote:

In post 138, Malakittens wrote:Hm. I really did just like HK 137. But I want to see how that progresses

In post 144, Malakittens wrote:That post has a bad gut feeling, but will wait for redemption

[Interrogation:

Master Malakitten, you have made several posts showing a stance without explaining it nor fully committing to it. Please explain your pings. Has the interaction with master bob3141 reached a finite conclusion read wise considering you town ping both of us?

Very annoyed at the posting style but this post is very townie. I like questioning Mala even if Mala scumread HK.

You're town for now, but I think Mala is town, might want to go somewhere else with your poking

In post 168, HK 50 wrote:

[Statement:]

The lack of actual discussion is making my circuits moderately irritated. There cannot be ruthless slaughter like this.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Master Battle Mage feel free to explain the basis of your read.

I agree with your vote but your line of questioning was not leading to this, what do you really feel about Dunn?

In post 177, Green Crayons wrote:bob's posts look like scum trying to effort. (shrug)

Kinda disagree. I don't get his poking of ns interactions with Mala (but that's because I know they're tight and go way back). But so far I like his line of questioning.

I also think you're town tho.

In post 178, Not_Mafia wrote:Battle Mage is today's lynch btw everyone

Why BM over Dunn?

In post 183, Malakittens wrote:VOTE: Vot.

Mala, hold on. This slot is quite empty. Hasn't posted since day 1 irl. Why the vote here?

In post 188, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 178, Not_Mafia wrote:Battle Mage is today's lynch btw everyone

In post 185, Not_Mafia wrote:Battle Mage is definitely scum

Well I might be today's lynch, but I'm not scum dude! You selling anything else?

This post seems kinda too jokey to be scum. But I feel like the rest of the posting has been kind of incoherent.

But there's something I quite like about this post not being super defensive

In post 191, stungun0404 wrote:I am currently a few pages into reading, but would like to make a request. @HK50, I love your posting style -- so nothing against it -- but could you possibly use less sophisticated words to get your points across? I can understand what you are saying if I really spend time looking into your every post, but it is very hard to read some of your posts on the surface.

Another reason I ask this is because using a ton of more complicated words makes it more difficult than normal to read your intentions. This posting style could be extremely effective for scum to hide behind, because it is an easy way for them to blanket their intentions, because a lot more effort is needed than typical to truly assess their motives.

This. This is a good town post. Encapsulates my feelings. Great entrance and I think you're town

In fact, I think HK not breaking his posting pattern might actually make me question him

In post 200, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 199, notscience wrote:So we moved from video game debate to vernacular debate

don't get medical with me!

Anyone got a meta read on BM? Is he more jokey and not serious as town or scum?

In post 205, bob3141 wrote:
So you said you would vote far or dun over their mala push. Was that the reason for your vote on dun as in that post you talked about how you felt that mala was town. Rather than talking about your read on dun. Was it duns mala vote that spurned your vote? If so what about dun lead you to scum read him enough to vote.

With all you later mentioning in post 99 about dun and farside in relation to their push on mala.

Since both dun and far and even NS voted mala prior to your dun posts. What is your read on those two players that you didn't vote for. Why dun over them.

This feels like it's overcomplicating my Dunn vote and kinda feels like a buddy/protect to Dunn.

Simply put, Dunn's Mala push was really disingenuous and very reachy. I disliked it because it painted Mala as scummy for something that wasn't even AI.

In post 242, stungun0404 wrote:@DoctorPepper, @Dunnstral, @Geraintm, @ Votato do you guys have any early townleans/town indications?

Town:
early town reads on Mala, farside, Green Crayons, you

Slight town on HK but the posting is throwing me off

I wanna town read NS but that's just because of meta/history

In post 244, notscience wrote:Hi friend I will vote when I am sober enough to Lynch some ecumfucks bc idk if you’ve tried but it’s hard to figure out ulterior motives while drunk but I’m good for it I promise or farside mala and dp will Lynch tf out of me

Okay this feels like town ns. Haven't played with you drunk but I like this.

In post 252, geraintm wrote:

In post 240, stungun0404 wrote:VOTE: Geraintm

Absolutely nothing in their ISO thus far points to scumhunting, and I do not like that. Especially paired together with their commitment to stalling that they admitted to in 108 by saying "you all do you, i'm going to wait until things become more clear."

That does not settle right with me at all.

I have nothing at the moment. day 1 people talk but it doesn't mean anything. votes are the important thing and there just haven't been many so far. I'm very much the type of person who looks at people's voting patterns and trying to either spot inconsistencies or really, really bad logic used to justify them

when I say you all do you, it is just me saying I don't have the mental capacity to argue over perceived slights, misunderstandings or whatever

Fervently disagree with D1 meaning nothing, and the reason why is because I have formed my best reads historically off D1 insights. It is possible to find an entire scum team on D1, and in that regard time has proven that my D1 reads are often my best of any day phase.

Why can't you read votes that have already occurred in this day phase and analyze them?

In post 263, DoctorPepper wrote:

In post 205, bob3141 wrote:
So you said you would vote far or dun over their mala push. Was that the reason for your vote on dun as in that post you talked about how you felt that mala was town. Rather than talking about your read on dun. Was it duns mala vote that spurned your vote? If so what about dun lead you to scum read him enough to vote.

With all you later mentioning in post 99 about dun and farside in relation to their push on mala.

Since both dun and far and even NS voted mala prior to your dun posts. What is your read on those two players that you didn't vote for. Why dun over them.

This feels like it's overcomplicating my Dunn vote and kinda feels like a buddy/protect to Dunn.

Simply put, Dunn's Mala push was really disingenuous and very reachy. I disliked it because it painted Mala as scummy for something that wasn't even AI.

Bob tends to ask questions that look scummy on paper. I ranted to him our last game for how bad his questions were and called him scummy.

Votato is typically posting more by this point in the game. So i don't mind the vote from mala.
I feel like grabing GC lol spoiler wall and asking why players are not voting dunn.
Im null with bm comments so far.

@DoctorPepper, I like that you are getting a lot of town reads, but OTOH I almost initially felt like you were getting too many, if that makes sense. But then again I feel like scum would not want to force themselves to townread so many players at such an early stage as to make it more difficult in the long run on themselves to vote certain players, without making those players suspicious of them for their earlier townreads. So townlean on you for now.

And to address why I felt you were getting too many, in your series of posts you mentioned farside town for sheeping, HK50 and Mala both town, GC town, stungun town, and a town feel on NS, and what seemed like an initial townlean on BM, which represents at least slight townleans/indications it appears on 7 different players, which is good to see if you are town, especially if they end up being right.

In post 227, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 213, stungun0404 wrote:I think they asked a great question to Dunnstral in post 20 that more likely than not comes from town in my opinion, although I could be wrong which is why it's limited to just a townlean.

lol

I did miss this. Nice catch.

In post 9, votato wrote:VOTE: hk 50 i know that you're really an assassin droid

In post 20, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 16, farside22 wrote:Town or scum im enjoying hk-50 commitment for posting style.

He's scum with votato, but I'll let him live for being amusing

In post 32, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 29, farside22 wrote:Why is votato part of this sentence?

I vaguely saw his first post as a partner post

In post 81, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 62, Malakittens wrote:

In post 59, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Malakittens

You are mafia

Por que?

I don't like the way you went about the early game,

votato + hk50

, and then the notscience vote

People need to
read this quote wall and ask how dunn push on mala makes sense!

Battle Mage/Dunnstral/?

In post 266, stungun0404 wrote:

In post 252, geraintm wrote:

In post 240, stungun0404 wrote:VOTE: Geraintm

Absolutely nothing in their ISO thus far points to scumhunting, and I do not like that. Especially paired together with their commitment to stalling that they admitted to in 108 by saying "you all do you, i'm going to wait until things become more clear."

That does not settle right with me at all.

I have nothing at the moment. day 1 people talk but it doesn't mean anything. votes are the important thing and there just haven't been many so far. I'm very much the type of person who looks at people's voting patterns and trying to either spot inconsistencies or really, really bad logic used to justify them

when I say you all do you, it is just me saying I don't have the mental capacity to argue over perceived slights, misunderstandings or whatever

Fervently disagree with D1 meaning nothing, and the reason why is because I have formed my best reads historically off D1 insights. It is possible to find an entire scum team on D1, and in that regard time has proven that my D1 reads are often my best of any day phase.

Why can't you read votes that have already occurred in this day phase and analyze them?

DAy 1 means little at the time. on later days of the game there might be useful info.
you may well be able to catch scum teams on day 1, I am not that good a player to do that. as I said, you all do you but for me, Day 1 is just weird until some wagons form and I can see who is on them and who isn't.

Would it help you to encourage different wagons to form then in order to try and see how things evolve?

In post 272, stungun0404 wrote:Would it help you to encourage different wagons to form then in order to try and see how things evolve?

That is an excellent idea.

Wagons Assemble!!!!

{Did I do it right?}

Lol, that's funny enough to get me to move off your wagon

VOTE: Votato