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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:32 am
by Tuxedo Mask
In post 245, Deimos27 wrote:You don't see why scumhunting is inherently more aggressive than townhunting?
I understand that I don't see why you can't aggressively scum hunt, and then just make the coalition of those you don't scum read.
Town hunting or scum hunting to build the coalition the end results should be the same. Also Bear plays that way to garner reactions from people, so what he's doing is far from what I've seen. Again I feel garnering reactions by aggressively baring people from a coalition could yield results. But Bear seems content to just sit back and hope townies present themselves.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:33 am
by Tuxedo Mask
In post 249, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: In post 243, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I really don't see it as a reason to play differently, care to explain? It also doesn't wave away the reduced post count. Something Bear said they do as scum
You're really comparing my workday post count to my weekend post count?
What could possibly be the reason for the difference. Let me think about that and get back to you.
Right, I forgot you posted your schedule at the start of the game.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:35 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 250, Tuxedo Mask wrote:Town hunting or scum hunting to build the coalition the end results should be the same. Also Bear plays that way to garner reactions from people, so what he's doing is far from what I've seen. Again I feel garnering reactions by aggressively baring people from a coalition could yield results. But Bear seems content to just sit back and hope townies present themselves.
1. Attacking people and getting them lynched yields very different results from excluding someone from a coalition
2. Watching how people behave on their own is pretty good for first getting a baseline behavior before you begin reaction testing. You do not go straight to reaction testing right away.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:36 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I think it's fair to assume most people work on Tuesday and have Saturday off. Using my post count difference between the two games is frankly nonsense since I was busy away from the keyboard for large parts of today.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:38 am
by DonCorleone
Actually, Deimos, what do you think of my proposed coalition?
@pooky actually it would be 5 I just wanna feel better about you/votato before I lock that in.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:39 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
and also post count has a lot to do with interactions, if I'm not interacting very heavily with anyone obviously the post count is going to be lower than a game where I'm fighting someone back and forth in the lynch phase of the game.
Most of your points against me are complete nonsense.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:40 am
by DonCorleone
Yes, this is because he’s scum lol
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:40 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
nah he could just be dumb, most scum don't go out on the attack this early
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:40 am
by DonCorleone
I’d forgotten that Good Feel(tm) or busting some scum chops immediately in a game
Feels good man
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:42 am
by Deimos27
In post 254, DonCorleone wrote:Actually, Deimos, what do you think of my proposed coalition?
@pooky actually it would be 5 I just wanna feel better about you/votato before I lock that in.
I'm not confident in Clover's presence in it. The rest seems ok, assuming you'd fill in the empty slots with Pooky/votato.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:42 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ebi looks pretty good but I like deimos better
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:43 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
pretty good chance they're both town,
i might even bump votato off the coalition and do ebi/deimos instead
all 3 are very close for me
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:43 am
by SleeperSoul
In post 240, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
I don't comment on call outs. If you have questions for me I'll answer them. If there is a conversation to be had I'll have it. You just saying I'm scum and then saying you won't explain would be a waste of everyone's time to comment on.
tux, what's gotten into you? To me this doesn't seem like the townie tux from last game.
HURT: tux
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:43 am
by Deimos27
Who is ebi
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:44 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
clover ebi
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:45 am
by Deimos27
In post 262, SleeperSoul wrote: In post 240, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
I don't comment on call outs. If you have questions for me I'll answer them. If there is a conversation to be had I'll have it. You just saying I'm scum and then saying you won't explain would be a waste of everyone's time to comment on.
tux, what's gotten into you? To me this doesn't seem like the townie tux from last game.
HURT: tux
Though I'm not over the moon about Tux's play so far, the post you've quoted I happen to agree with.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:46 am
by SleeperSoul
In post 236, DonCorleone wrote:
Building on this: I think it probably would be best to lynch me if I am sheeped on a coalition and it’s wrong. I doubt I’d be so wrong as to have both scum in it, which would mean 1 scum inside and 1 scum outside. If I get lynched so be it, I can give my best bet on who’s the scum inside it first, and then you’ll know that I’m straight up when I get flipped. Then unless scum wanna narrow it down further, they’ll prob kill outside the coalition which will mean D2 two pools of (3 town, 1 scum)(2 town, 1 scum)
If you get the scum inside the coalition on D2 then you’re gold going into D3 and it probably makes the most sense to look outside the coalition D3/4, plus NKA will probably be useful.
And the plus plus is in a case where I’m very wrong and there are two scum in the coalition, you’ll have a raw 66% chance to lynch scum on D3 assuming no kills inside the coalition and a mislynch D2 (earlier possible lylo situation) which is p good.
The only really worrying scenario is D3 if there’s only 1 scum in the coalition, that would prob be the hardest one to solve, but again, I figure it’s unlikely
HEAL: dc I only get a slight twinge of paranoia just because this plan is a little bit over my head, but you seem way townie and I trust you at this point.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:47 am
by DonCorleone
In post 261, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:pretty good chance they're both town,
i might even bump votato off the coalition and do ebi/deimos instead
all 3 are very close for me
Whats townie about Deimos?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
this line didn't feel scummy
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:52 am
by Deimos27
Breathtaking reasoning, I'm sold.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:53 am
by SleeperSoul
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:54 am
by Alduskkel
In post 236, DonCorleone wrote:
Building on this: I think it probably would be best to lynch me if I am sheeped on a coalition and it’s wrong. I doubt I’d be so wrong as to have both scum in it, which would mean 1 scum inside and 1 scum outside. If I get lynched so be it, I can give my best bet on who’s the scum inside it first, and then you’ll know that I’m straight up when I get flipped. Then unless scum wanna narrow it down further, they’ll prob kill outside the coalition which will mean D2 two pools of (3 town, 1 scum)(2 town, 1 scum)
If you get the scum inside the coalition on D2 then you’re gold going into D3 and it probably makes the most sense to look outside the coalition D3/4, plus NKA will probably be useful.
And the plus plus is in a case where I’m very wrong and there are two scum in the coalition, you’ll have a raw 66% chance to lynch scum on D3 assuming no kills inside the coalition and a mislynch D2 (earlier possible lylo situation) which is p good.
The only really worrying scenario is D3 if there’s only 1 scum in the coalition, that would prob be the hardest one to solve, but again, I figure it’s unlikely
ok but what if you're town and the coalition fails (assume 1 scum in) and then D2 if we lynch in the coalition there's only a 1/4 chance we hit assuming scum NK outside the coalition and we lynch inside the coalition again
then we're at lylo D3 which seems very bad
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:54 am
by Tuxedo Mask
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:54 am
by SleeperSoul
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:56 am
by Datisi
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