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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:07 am
by midwaybear
In post 248, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 243, midwaybear wrote:
In post 241, Dunnstral wrote:I think he's playing like he would as scum
This is very helpful. I understand why you scumread me now.

The only time I've seen you as anti-town is when you thought you were anti-town in lunacy, for the first day only. I'm comparing your play here to that
I don’t think so, but how do you think they are similar?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:16 am
by CantHateAPuppy
In post 249, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 246, Ydrasse wrote:i don’t wanna leave everyone hanging today so:
Actually it's a
launch
mob

I'm looking forward to Umlaut's next game's flavor, where only a meal served at mid-day can defeat the anti-town faction
:lol: Dunn when did you become funny

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:30 am
by Blair
In post 234, ready2rock wrote:Blair has Schrodinger's Case, where she’s presented this incredible genius read for the last page or two, but we haven't opened the box so you’ll never know if her case was ever actually there or not
Fear not! This is by design.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:34 am
by Blair
In post 230, Mafia Goon wrote:Tbh, that last post of mine sounds a little awkward/pockety even to me.

Why the other two, Blair?
and read forced and you've manufactured a townread out of thin air just in time to move your vote somewhere else, while shading a couple other slots without committing to actual scumreads.

Basically, you've managed to throw your weight in six or seven different directions without saying anything that would grant you any accountability for any of these pushes.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:37 am
by Blair
In post 233, CantHateAPuppy wrote:
In post 227, Blair wrote:Oh, also:

FoS: Mafia Goon
im not going to ask why
Thank goodness.

I was afraid you might finally roll scum.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:45 am
by Mafia Goon
In post 253, Blair wrote:
In post 230, Mafia Goon wrote:Tbh, that last post of mine sounds a little awkward/pockety even to me.

Why the other two, Blair?
and read forced and you've manufactured a townread out of thin air just in time to move your vote somewhere else, while shading a couple other slots without committing to actual scumreads.

Basically, you've managed to throw your weight in six or seven different directions without saying anything that would grant you any accountability for any of these pushes.
Yep, that's what I'm doing. Not the manufacturing townreads part, but the throwing accusations/thougths around that aren't very serious part, because I don't have any good scumreads right now.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:47 am
by Mafia Goon
Was your reaction to Dunnstral "rolling scum" a genuine one or were you overreacting?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:48 am
by Mafia Goon
Maybe an inside figure and great oysters or nought?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:52 am
by Umlaut
Vote Count 1.6
ready2rock
(3): , ,
Nosferatu
(2): ,
Ydrasse
(1):
midwaybear
(1):
Battle Mage
(1):
Blair
(1):

Not voting
(1):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to launch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2020-08-04 23:30:00)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:22 am
by innocentvillager
In post 243, midwaybear wrote:
In post 241, Dunnstral wrote:I think he's playing like he would as scum
This is very helpful. I understand why you scumread me now.
This is very helpful. I understand why you understand why he scumreads you now.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:28 am
by innocentvillager
I'm not done with r2r but god this slot is so boring VOTE: Ydrasse

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:47 am
by CantHateAPuppy
This is not very helpful. I don't understand anything!

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:17 am
by Blair
In post 256, Mafia Goon wrote:Was your reaction to Dunnstral "rolling scum" a genuine one or were you overreacting?
It was a page one read - it was serious at the time, obviously it becomes less substantial as more material accumulates.

If I have a non-serious read, I'll let you know.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:20 am
by Blair
Also, it occurs to me that I mentioned it in my modded game (which just completed - go read it! Absolutely wild ride) but didn't mention here: I'm in the process of packing and moving, so my attention is very divided right now and I haven't been able to keep up my usual rate of activity. Hoping to be completed packed up and moved out within 24 hours, though!

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:21 am
by Blair
In post 261, CantHateAPuppy wrote:This is not very helpful. I don't understand anything!
This is very unhelpful. I misunderstood everything!

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:54 am
by Battle Mage
In post 264, Blair wrote:
In post 261, CantHateAPuppy wrote:This is not very helpful. I don't understand anything!
This is very unhelpful. I misunderstood everything!
It seems everyone needs a bit of clarity....don't worry, Drunk BM in da house! :doc:

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:58 am
by Battle Mage
4 new pages? ugh, i cba, i'll be back in the morning. :facepalm:

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:55 pm
by midwaybear
In post 256, Mafia Goon wrote:Was your reaction to Dunnstral "rolling scum" a genuine one or were you overreacting?
I think I already asked this question to her.
In post 261, CantHateAPuppy wrote:This is not very helpful. I don't understand anything!
I like this. I don't know why I like this.

We should probably hang Ydrasse if nothing new comes up.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:45 pm
by Ydrasse
boring is just my personality i am sorry (and i haven't been giving games as much attention as i should have/could have this week)

also ngl reading this game feels like i'm looking at a blob of "meh" with a few light trs (hi inno, hi blair) thrown in there which makes parsing through it all feel like my brain is turning into goo. i don't know what that means mafia is doing other than either blending in or just... not playing right now which means we're all kind of half-heartedly pointing fingers at each other hoping something sticks.

that sentiment implicates nosferatu, dunn and r2r if going off of like, strictly numbers. of them i like nosferatu the most bc of that dunn/blair thing. i think r2r isn't look the best but i vibed with some of their points regarding bm thus the unvote. i don't think it's foolproof like they are town 100% of the time but i can follow their logic without having to twist and reach for it so i don't wanna vote them rn

i think i just want to vote dunn and see like. anything.

VOTE: dunnstral

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:41 pm
by Nosferatu
VOTE: ydrasse

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:36 am
by Blair
In post 268, Ydrasse wrote:i think i just want to vote dunn and see like. anything.
Spoiler Alert:
Spoiler:
This never works. Dunnstral doesn't respond to pressure votes, and even if he did, you aren't actually applying any pressure when you say, "Meh, I just want to see something from you."


You called me town, though, so I'll be cozying up inside your pocket for now.

I didn't find your explanation for your Ready2Rock stance very compelling. Please revisit this topic soon and consider voting for him with extreme prejudice.

Regards,
Blair

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:46 am
by CantHateAPuppy
I'll join you Blair!

VOTE: Ready2rock

Nobody is saying anything so it's time to pick a wagon
I like this one!

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:54 am
by Battle Mage
In post 176, ready2rock wrote:UNVOTE:

Right now I'm not liking BM all that much. He's claiming that he had both town and scum tells from midway, but I only ever saw him give midway the least charitable reading possible and sounded very sure midway was scum (see: his iso read at 110) until he decided to push someone else, then suddenly he was having a slight town read on midway all along

VOTE: Battle Mage

@BM What specifically gives you any town vibes on midway? And when, if at all, did your read change?

That all being said I don't like Nosferatu's entrance into the game all that much either, very combative

Happy birthday Umlaut!
I think this comes from town. I don't think newbie scum chooses to gun for me when there's no momentum and it's likely that I get all OMGUSy and tunnel-visiony which just brings them into the limelight. And I can see how newbie town could find my approach unusual/alarming.

By way of response, I was mostly trying to test how Midway would react to me probing, so you're right that my interpretations were not always "charitable" but that was intentional in order to put him under pressure. I never voted for Midway, and as per my analysis there were scummy bits and townie bits to his play - so my read developed throughout the discussion. Overall, I feel good about him because he didn't shy away from a proper dialogue with me, his engagement was genuine and he was prepared to concede more ground than I think scum would feel comfortable with. But that doesn't mean he's townblocked, and there may be things to return to later.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:58 am
by Battle Mage
In post 180, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 157, midwaybear wrote:I’m not really sure how much BM actually believes in his Nosferatu push. It feels like a dumb push to make.
my question is: are dumb pushes more prone to come from town or scum though.
WTF!? "Dumb push"??
In post 181, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 160, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 158, Ydrasse wrote:bm i feel it's... a bit much to expect the second a person show up they lay out a grand platter of stuff for us to chew upon.
You're misrepping me - I haven't said I expected that. But let me remind you of the sequence of events...
i feel like this is going to devolve in a pedantic back and forth because i don't see it as a misrep fmpov.

*offers hand* agree to disagree?
No! Because as above, you're implying my push on Nosferatu was dumb even though I actually went to the trouble of explaining it in Post 160, which you ignored.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:09 am
by Battle Mage
In post 186, innocentvillager wrote:i think BM leans town and from rock felt weird. I hate the reason for voting BM and the side dig on Nosferatu both of which I disagree with
In post 187, Blair wrote:
In post 184, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 178, Blair wrote:Happy birthday, Umlaut!

FoS: Ready2Rock
VOTE: ready2rock I can get behind this
This post has a higher probability of becoming important later than most.
Blair - why did you FoS R2R above? and what was the rationale for your comment about Innocentvillager's post becoming important later?
In post 190, CantHateAPuppy wrote:VOTE: Noseferatu

I don't have any strong reads and I want to sheep on this for a big
This post has a higher probability of becoming important later than most.
In post 196, midwaybear wrote:Meh the reasoning for voting BM was ok, but I do agree that the jab at Nosferatu was pretty scummy.
I'm liking puppy for puppy last few posts, but idk why.
I like Puppy too but my gut says he be scum. I don't think the jab at Nosferatu was scummy - he
was
being combative and unhelpful. But I do agree the reasoning for voting me was ok.