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In post 219, Kmd4390 wrote:Sorry long day. Someone help me explain to a five year old why he has to lose three grandparents since the start of last year?

I'll try to catch up in the morning. Hate that I'm sucking at keeping up and just proving Agar right.

Shit man, that's brutal. Sorry for your loss.

In post 221, Sou and Kanna wrote:

In post 211, AGar wrote:I think it's pretty self-evident.

but what did you like about it?

it's just a big part of this whole game we're playing, really.

also, you do know about kmd's activity patterns, so why did you ask them again?

~k

My initial interaction with bingle was straight up questioning their reasoning for making a post.
I no longer feel that way about their posting.

I know Kmd's activity but that's not going to stop me from pushing at something I want an explanation on. And specifically, kmd was carrying as if the read on Bingle was obvious and had been stated, tho it hadn't, so I was particularly seeing if I would continue to get cagey responses or if I would get a thorough explanation. I got the latter.

, re 226 - I'm currently in the stage of my life of writing off arrogance as not indicative of anything in particular. Running into lots of players that think they're better than they are, as both alignments. Also, Bingle has addressed the downplay of the wagon on them, and I really don't expect what else you want someone to say when they're asked to address a wagon on them - "omg it hurts my soul"?

Could you fucking stop that please?

In post 240, Sou and Kanna wrote:even though it's an obvious joke?

Have you considered the fact that if a third (or more) of the playerlist didn't pick up on your "obvious" ''''''joke'''''', then maybe it wasn't so ?

I'm more sure on Michael/Porkens/Bulge/Agar being town.

Not so sure on Reck anymore.

I don't know about Kanna and KMD.

But Bingle is maybe scum

-

PoE {Reck, Kanna, Kmd, Bingle} has two scum inside.

Bingle you snipped the part of my post that shows I was talking about your Porkens read in one early post and not now. I never said we don't know your CURRENT Porkens read. Dirty move from someone accusing me of lying lol.

In post 252, Kmd4390 wrote:Bingle you snipped the part of my post that shows I was talking about your Porkens read in one early post and not now. I never said we don't know your CURRENT Porkens read. Dirty move from someone accusing me of lying lol.

I snipped, and noted the place I snipped from, a section of your post where you talked about how me voting Porkens in RVS was scummy, and then brought up every non game indicative thing I did in the thread. But sure, lets assume that "We don't know where Bingle stands on Porkens" was supposed to be a statement about specifically the early part of the thread and not a blanket statement.

I RVS voted Porkens in 6, flat out said that I was townleaning Porkens in 15, stated that my townread had weakened on Porkens but that I didn't want to eliminate him due to my enjoyment of his posts in 49 and doubled down with the exact words "Porkens has decent scum equity" in 63. There was literally one post in that sequence not included, which was 34. So, pray tell, where was I unclear on my Porkens read? And before you accuse me of going too far with my inclusions again, post 63 is one of the posts in which I talked about the chess game, which was specifically a problem you had BEFORE you mentioned my Porkens read being unclear.

So... What about all the actual lying you did? No comment?

@S&K: The thing I take away from the lack of pointing out that my interactions with you were weird is that the people pushing me aren't reading me particularly closely. That in itself isn't very scum indicative because town skims all the time, but when someone then tries to show how in depth their read on me actually is (like KMD just did) it definitely makes me think they're making shit up. I don't think it particularly makes you scum, nor do I think you would have thought that the interaction was weird because, y'know, you were the other person in the thread looking at the same picture I was.

The question here is, with so many people trying to sell me as scum, why didn't any of them bring up the awkward signalling I didn't even try to hide? That's not a rhetorical question, btw. I genuinely want an answer from my wagon.


Bingle's Current Readslist:

Bingle
S&K
Agar
Clidd
MS
Reck - null line
Bulge
Porkens
KMD

work is literally killing me, but i go on PTO starting TOMORROW so i plan to read the last 3 or so pages then

VC 1.6

Bingle

(3): Kmd4930 7, The Bulge 145, clidd 152

Sou and Kanna

(3): AGar 26, xReckonerx 31, Michael Scott 197

KMD4930

(2): Bingle 239, Sou and Kanna 241

Not Voting

(1): Porkens 235

Mod Notes:

Reck is V/LA

Porkens has used 1/20 Reserve Posts
clidd has used 19/20 Reserve Posts
Just a reminder that Post Counts reset at 8:30pm EST for this phase and that your Reserve Posts are a game-long reserve.

In post 251, clidd wrote:I'm more sure on Michael/Porkens/Bulge/Agar being town.

Hey Clidd, can you give me a one-line summary for each townread again? Thank you.

More importantly, summarize Bingle!scum for me if you can? Because gut tells me the opposite.

-Jimothy

Bingle wrote: I RVS voted Porkens in 6, flat out said that I was townleaning Porkens in 15, stated that my townread had weakened on Porkens but that I didn't want to eliminate him due to my enjoyment of his posts in 49 and doubled down with the exact words "Porkens has decent scum equity" in 63. There was literally one post in that sequence not included, which was 34. So, pray tell, where was I unclear on my Porkens read? And before you accuse me of going too far with my inclusions again, post 63 is one of the posts in which I talked about the chess game, which was specifically a problem you had BEFORE you mentioned my Porkens read being unclear.

Yes, exactly this. Your read on Porkens was all over the place

Bingle wrote: So... What about all the actual lying you did? No comment?

I don't lie. Even as scum. Good scum just vote scummy townies.

In post 257, Kmd4390 wrote:

Bingle wrote: I RVS voted Porkens in 6, flat out said that I was townleaning Porkens in 15, stated that my townread had weakened on Porkens but that I didn't want to eliminate him due to my enjoyment of his posts in 49 and doubled down with the exact words "Porkens has decent scum equity" in 63. There was literally one post in that sequence not included, which was 34. So, pray tell, where was I unclear on my Porkens read? And before you accuse me of going too far with my inclusions again, post 63 is one of the posts in which I talked about the chess game, which was specifically a problem you had BEFORE you mentioned my Porkens read being unclear.

Yes, exactly this. Your read on Porkens was all over the place

Bingle wrote: So... What about all the actual lying you did? No comment?

I don't lie. Even as scum. Good scum just vote scummy townies.

Who’s the scummiest townie right now?

catching up from page 6:
kinda like bulge's entry into the game. feels town. naked vote on bingle, eh, not so much.

clidd's whole response to my reasons on voting for him basically amounts to "yep, youre right" so im pretty fine with my vote being there? esp after the awful self meta in 140

agar being coy about why porkens vote is weird and bad!

volxen presses clidd on agar's posts and in response clidd emptyquotes agar's iso and asks volxen what he sees. this isn't how burden of proof works. what is happening.

bingle arguing that porkens putting effort into one post means every post should have that level of effort feels like an incredibly bad faith argument? like, the argument that porkens attacked an early post he saw as he read the game instead of reading in full and then prioritizing what to comment on feels absurd. i say, as i'm doing exactly what porkens did in my catchup rn.

agar's 187 is :goodposting: and feels like it's coming from a genuine place. i also like that im in the "do not yeet" pile, though i'm curious how bingle ended up in there. "I'm coming around on Bingle" doesn't really explain it for me bud

MS is very town, like the pressure and line of questioning they're pursuing. i don't love bingle's response to the SK vote where he tells MS "SK isn't the vote for today". uh, why not?? and bingle follows this up by going "what are your thoughts on the REST OF THE GAME" and im like..........you don't get to just shut down a wagon on a slot and then put the onus on OTHER PEOPLE to find alternatives. u wanna defend a slot, defend it.

S&K pick up on the weird "coming around on Bingle" line from agar. the response "i think it's pretty self-evident": this ain't it, fam. oof

porkens is damn near lock town for me at this point. find myself hard agreeing with most of his posts and the frenetic vote/unvote on bingle last page is a place ive been as town and know exactly what was going through his brain.

bingle has done some weird stuff that i need to get my head around more, and he's sitting in the scum bin, but like, the way he sees the game is just night and day from where i am. porkens might be my strongest town read and yet bingle is scumreading him. i just do not see the case or anything scum indicative there, he's hanging it all on this "you analyzed post #4" thing??

clidd shows up to remind me that he's scummy at least, so thanks for that. funny how ive been downgraded to not in his town list...when ive been VLA and not posting. feels like manufactured "progression" doesn't it

ANYWAY.

IM GETTING ON A MEETING RIGHT NOW SO CUTTING THIS HERE HAVE A READSLIST

TOWN
Michael Scott
Porkens
The Bulge
AGar
Sou and Kanna
Kmd4390
Bingle
clidd
SCUM

In post 258, Porkens wrote:

In post 257, Kmd4390 wrote:

Bingle wrote: I RVS voted Porkens in 6, flat out said that I was townleaning Porkens in 15, stated that my townread had weakened on Porkens but that I didn't want to eliminate him due to my enjoyment of his posts in 49 and doubled down with the exact words "Porkens has decent scum equity" in 63. There was literally one post in that sequence not included, which was 34. So, pray tell, where was I unclear on my Porkens read? And before you accuse me of going too far with my inclusions again, post 63 is one of the posts in which I talked about the chess game, which was specifically a problem you had BEFORE you mentioned my Porkens read being unclear.

Yes, exactly this. Your read on Porkens was all over the place

Bingle wrote: So... What about all the actual lying you did? No comment?

I don't lie. Even as scum. Good scum just vote scummy townies.

Who’s the scummiest townie right now?

In my opinion, whichever of my scum reads I'm wrong about .

In post 258, Porkens wrote:

In post 257, Kmd4390 wrote:

Bingle wrote: I RVS voted Porkens in 6, flat out said that I was townleaning Porkens in 15, stated that my townread had weakened on Porkens but that I didn't want to eliminate him due to my enjoyment of his posts in 49 and doubled down with the exact words "Porkens has decent scum equity" in 63. There was literally one post in that sequence not included, which was 34. So, pray tell, where was I unclear on my Porkens read? And before you accuse me of going too far with my inclusions again, post 63 is one of the posts in which I talked about the chess game, which was specifically a problem you had BEFORE you mentioned my Porkens read being unclear.

Yes, exactly this. Your read on Porkens was all over the place

Bingle wrote: So... What about all the actual lying you did? No comment?

I don't lie. Even as scum. Good scum just vote scummy townies.

Who’s the scummiest townie right now?

In my opinion, whichever of my scum reads I'm wrong about . Point is scum don't have to lie to make those players look scummy so Bingle accusing me of lying is inaccurate and still would be inaccurate if I was scum.

all this talk about "bugs bugs bugs bugs bugs", but nobody ever asks, how is the bulge ?

sigh UNVOTE:

In post 239, Bingle wrote:What do you make of KMD's 224?

agree mainly with the last part, the rest seems a pretty fair recap. as for my read on kmd he is a bullseye null.

In post 244, clidd wrote:Scum just don't want to push me for ''?'' reasons.

weird thing to say. keep me out of your pocket

In post 259, xRECKONERx wrote:these are my reads and I also hate clidd's posting

join me reck. ignoring clidd is the better option for your health and that of the game/

I'm kind of giving a time from the site, so my last post are my official readlist.

It would be good if you guys sort KMD today, otherwise will be a problem later.

Good luck!

In post 264, clidd wrote:It would be good if you guys sort KMD today, otherwise will be a problem later.

Nah. No ones gonna scum read me late in the game.

alright! i'm leaning the ms push on us was a genuine attempt to sort. and even though my partner responded, i want to add it's not a stretch to think his takes were "spin the wheel"-like and scummy. i also didn't understand the clumping comment at first; i don't think it's fair for you to push us for these.

that aside, i'm still finding the bulge a null. @people who are townreading him, why?

~

In post 250, AGar wrote:My initial interaction with bingle was straight up questioning their reasoning for making a post.
I no longer feel that way about their posting.

i realised i worded this weirdly; what i wanted to know was what part of bingle's posts did you like specifically at that point? i don't really understand this sorry

~

@reck; can you expand on your bulge read? why is he so high on your list when your only comment on him was this?

In post 259, xRECKONERx wrote:kinda like bulge's entry into the game. feels town. naked vote on bingle, eh, not so much.

~

this game is in need of a boost of FUN

~kanna

In post 261, The Bulge wrote:nobody ever asks, how is the bulge ?

how the bulge?

~kanna

VC 1.7

Sou and Kanna

(3): AGar 26, xReckonerx 31, Michael Scott 197

Bingle

(2): Kmd4930 7, clidd 152

KMD4930

(2): Bingle 239, Sou and Kanna 241

Not Voting

(2): Porkens 235, The Bulge 262

Mod Notes:

Searching for a replacement for clidd
Reck is V/LA

Porkens has used 1/20 Reserve Posts
clidd has used 19/20 Reserve Posts
Just a reminder that Post Counts reset at 8:30pm EST for this phase and that your Reserve Posts are a game-long reserve.

In post 268, Sou and Kanna wrote:

In post 250, AGar wrote:My initial interaction with bingle was straight up questioning their reasoning for making a post.
I no longer feel that way about their posting.

i realised i worded this weirdly; what i wanted to know was what part of bingle's posts did you like specifically at that point? i don't really understand this sorry

Yeah it's not a specific thing much more than it is a general thing. I feel bingle's posting is purposeful and I can follow the thought processes and don't find it to be stretched or forced. 49 felt very pointless and posting for the sake of posting to me in the manner of "Look at how helpful I'm being!" when providing nothing material to the game, and their followup in 63 felt underhwelming. 94 and onward have decent meat on their bones, show a genuine track of trying to sort things out and makes heads or tails of players while engaging and pushing a bit in directions.

I thought 51 and 81 at least laid the ground work for "Oh, ok AGar was skeptical of Bingle," but apparently not the case so :shrug:. I much prefer people do their own heavy lifting.




You've got Bulge pretty high up - sell me on it, because Bulge just kinda feels... present to me. I'm really not sure what I'm missing here.

my bulge thing is more that he hasn't done anything egregious whereas i can point to things other people have done

Migraine today I’ll try to make annintelligent post tomorrow