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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:08 am
by clidd
So:

1. I still want to talk with Dunn (and Pine) when they got back. I need to check something.

2. I plan to comment on your posts later (Farren), but you're giving me a good impression so far.

3. And in relation to Lion, I need to take a better look inside his pov. He's giving me mix impressions (but confusion is towny in his context).

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:03 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 149, Menalque wrote:hi ydrasse!

policy guillotining of all lurkers? what are your thoughts?
:/

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:05 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 166, clidd wrote:I will try to explain it eventually, but as I said, I don't want to have to surprise the expectations of elucidating in the rational-irrefutable field the progression of my tiredness.
what does this mean

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:06 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 182, Farren wrote:
In post 175, Menalque wrote:Gamma, pine, dunn all null.

Farren is still bit more towards scum, I think. But if my townreads are right, then I think this is winning already.
From where I'm standing, you being correct about your townreads (and Town yourself) means all the scum are in your null pile. How much of your townreads (both quantity and quality) are based on people scumreading me?
Why would they be?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:08 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 200, Farren wrote:
In post 184, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 175, Menalque wrote:I think Morning is town.
I think Clidd is town.
I think ydrasse is probably town.
I think GL is probably town, but actually maybe a little weaker than the other three.

Gamma, pine, dunn all null.
This seems opportunistic if farren is town.
Usually when I see "opportunistic" it's referring to someone jumping on a common scum wagon. That doesn't seem to apply here - could you explain further?
I like this post

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:13 pm
by Gamma Emerald
There’s a lot of meta talk on the last few pages that is going way over my head

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:32 pm
by clidd
In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:There’s a lot of meta talk on the last few pages that is going way over my head

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:36 pm
by clidd
The thing is: Town!Clidd does 'x' things, Scum!Clidd doesn't do 'x' things, but there are games where Town!Clidd doesn't do the 'x' things that the Town!Clidd by default does, so how are you going to say if Neutral!Clidd is town or scum by doing or not 'x' things ?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:38 pm
by clidd
Which is why I want to be evaluated per play, not meta.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:42 pm
by clidd
And meta is not always so conclusive. I remember making this mistake when I tried to read you (Gamma) on Mini 2132:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11789861

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:17 pm
by clidd
Not conclusive when used without the support of something extra like reads/impressions/gamestate etc ^

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:50 pm
by clidd
Image

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:37 pm
by Dannflor
Searching for a replacement for Menalque.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:43 pm
by Dannflor
Isis replaces Menalque.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:46 pm
by Isis
since this is an 11 page game I am optimistic this is not gonna be where the Bad Stuff is

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:51 pm
by Morning Tweet
:o

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:02 pm
by clidd
Oh no.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:04 pm
by clidd
Another point is that it would be disappointing for me if he tried to use such a trick as scum, as it is a low level game conduct in my opinion.
I hope it isn't because of this or something ^

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:08 pm
by clidd
Actually, forget what I said.

It wasn't just in this game that he got replaced.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:09 pm
by Morning Tweet
In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:There’s a lot of meta talk on the last few pages that is going way over my head
I'm interpreting the last few pages as "clidd doing clidd things, he's probably town"

I think Mena has an above rand% chance of being town but I dont feel the same way abt him as i do clidd + it's easy for me to say that when half the game doesnt have too much content in comparison yet

Farren and Ydrasse i think i could also foresee getting excited about them being town but we're not there yet
In post 175, Menalque wrote:so like

I think Morning is town.
I think Clidd is town.
I think ydrasse is probably town.
I think GL is probably town, but actually maybe a little weaker than the other three.

Gamma, pine, dunn all null.

Farren is still bit more towards scum, I think. But if my townreads are right, then I think this is winning already.
I wonder if scum Mena feels the need to get a solve going so early. At the moment I'm thinking it is more likely Mena is very eager town. Let's suppose that he is.
Spoiler: aftermath
In post 183, Dunnstral wrote:What makes you suppose he's right on all his townreads?
In post 184, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 175, Menalque wrote:I think Morning is town.
I think Clidd is town.
I think ydrasse is probably town.
I think GL is probably town, but actually maybe a little weaker than the other three.

Gamma, pine, dunn all null.
This seems opportunistic if farren is town.
In post 221, GuiltyLion wrote:I don't agree with you that Menalque is obvtown here and I think the reason you gave for it doesn't feel all that rigorous, which I would expect more from you. As either alignment Menalque can speak genuinely about your meta. It looks to me like you were happy with the conclusion he reached in and townread him back as a result, I can't grok why you'd be confident he's town off that.

I also don't vibe with scumreads on the two lowest activity slots on the basis of PoE here,
it's very likely that one of the more active posters is scum trying to establish a good foothold in the game

Dunn pretty directly opposes Mena and GL more indirectly does by saying he doesn't find Mena obvtown and saying it's likely an active poster is scum.

@Guilty
, i'll add this on to my other question in , who were you referring to as the "more active posters" when you said one is very likely to be scum?

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:09 pm
by clidd
Welcome Miss Isis o/

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:14 pm
by Isis
In post 18, Menalque wrote:ydrasse did you change ur avi?
Ydrasse's avatar looks very serious which appeals to me

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:17 pm
by Isis
In post 26, Farren wrote:
In post 21, GuiltyLion wrote:I actually rolled scum in the original roll of this setup and it was very scary indeed!

VOTE: Farren
did you roll scum again?
Nope. As much as I would have enjoyed conspiring with you, I definitely breathed a sigh of relief when I saw the reroll.
This reads like a scumpost. "definitely" is a bit much if scumming with GL would've been fine. Lady doth protest too much methinks

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:19 pm
by Isis
In post 29, Ydrasse wrote:when i am off mobile and can quote what i’m replying to ill be unstoppable btw.
I want to figure out why I think this is townish

not disagreement about Menalque disliking the previous posting from the slot

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:23 pm
by Isis
In post 43, Gamma Emerald wrote:Image
Hello fellow trees.
I hope someone pointed out that Gamma is humorously claiming scum because Sudowoodo is a pokemon that looks like a tree but is not a tree. And this occurs in Pokemon Emerald so it's rather noice