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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:08 am
by Datisi
oh right lol

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:21 am
by Nero Cain
What if he's just scum thats intentionly trying to act dumb?

Also there are only 2 scum but thats besides the point. Not really a fan of Gamma's language here...as a 2016 join date he should know that 4 scum s virtually impossible.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:24 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 251, Nero Cain wrote:What if he's just scum thats intentionly trying to act dumb?

Also there are only 2 scum but thats besides the point. Not really a fan of Gamma's language here...as a 2016 join date
he should know that 4 scum s virtually impossible
.
Does the bolded refer to me or EV?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:25 am
by Nero Cain
you but EV is apparently a 2016 join date too. Yeah you're both pretty scummy.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:28 am
by Gamma Emerald
Well, in my case I was arguing against it being 4 scum, so you’re straight up misinterpreting me. As for EV, I had a game where I stubbornly thought miller was a role scum could have in a normal. So maybe EV just never thought about how he numbers would work for that?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:38 am
by Nero Cain
Am I really though?
In post 251, Nero Cain wrote:Not really a fan of Gamma's language here
In post 246, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it’s
extremely unlikely
we have 4 scum
the above isn't exactly strong criticism of EV. Its not "extremely unlikely" its impossible. Me having a diffrent interpretation of what you said or meant to say isn't a misrep but nice use of buzzword placement. :giggle:

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:41 am
by Nero Cain
I am not sure what this means for EV. He's intentionly being scummy. Maybe he's just town and wants to avoid a nk, maybe he's scum doing the "2scum2bscum!" thing.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:52 am
by Datisi
i didn't say i agreed with it making him town, quite the opposite
In post 251, Nero Cain wrote:Also there are only 2 scum but thats besides the point.
?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:54 am
by Nero Cain
In post 245, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 205, Iconeum wrote:ofcourse that doesn't really cover your point of being silent until pressed on
shouldn't this be like a huge red flag for Gamma?
How tbh
Well, I mean you hitched your horse to the Ico wagon by claiming that you were in a scum game
In post 159, Gamma Emerald wrote:where he was rather quiet until pressed on it
but thats aparently not entirely true
In post 205, Iconeum wrote:but i quickly glanced at that game and I saw that I had the second most posts in that game,
now ofc Ico could lie and its also possible that he could have gotten ran up and posted it up but when he says he was the 2nd highest poster in the game that seemingly contridicts that he was "ather quiet until pressed on it", no?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:58 am
by Nero Cain
In post 257, Datisi wrote:i didn't say i agreed with it making him town, quite the opposite
In post 251, Nero Cain wrote:Also there are only 2 scum but thats besides the point.
?
I'm clearly scum that slipped. I coulda swore I saw something that said there were only 2 scum here but I can't find it. Maybe I'm just subconciously projecting 2 scum since its a 12 player instead of a 13 player and in a 13 players its gonna be 10/3 so I may have been thinking it would just be 10/2 but I guess it could just be a 9/3.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:59 am
by Mizzytastic
Sorry I've not been around, spent last few days ill and brain achey, got plans this evening but should be able to get an hour or two in in four hours

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:04 am
by Mizzytastic
After an insomnia dream where I couldn't tell the difference between this game, the tv show I was watching and an Among Us stream... yeah

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:07 am
by Nero Cain
bye have a good nap!

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:08 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 255, Nero Cain wrote:Am I really though?
In post 251, Nero Cain wrote:Not really a fan of Gamma's language here
In post 246, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it’s
extremely unlikely
we have 4 scum
the above isn't exactly strong criticism of EV. Its not "extremely unlikely" its impossible. Me having a diffrent interpretation of what you said or meant to say isn't a misrep but nice use of buzzword placement. :giggle:
I did not call it a misrep, I said you misinterpreted me. There are setups with 12 players that have 4 scum, or at least one to my knowledge, but it’s an open setup with specific mechanics that supposedly balance it. As such a 12p with 4 scum would likely need to be absolutely loaded with town power, to the point it’s hard to envision that being the case in a normal. I don’t see it as impossible, just an extremely infinitesimal possibility.
And to talk on how “misinterpret” is different from “misrep”. I view misinterpreting as taking what is said an RC getting the wrong idea from it. A misrep meanwhile is full on pushing an idea or narrative that is built off of faulty perceptions or scum motivation. I believe most, if not all, town misreps come from misinterpretation, however that chain of action isn’t guaranteed.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:11 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 258, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 245, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 205, Iconeum wrote:ofcourse that doesn't really cover your point of being silent until pressed on
shouldn't this be like a huge red flag for Gamma?
How tbh
Well, I mean you hitched your horse to the Ico wagon by claiming that you were in a scum game
In post 159, Gamma Emerald wrote:where he was rather quiet until pressed on it
but thats aparently not entirely true
In post 205, Iconeum wrote:but i quickly glanced at that game and I saw that I had the second most posts in that game,
now ofc Ico could lie and its also possible that he could have gotten ran up and posted it up but when he says he was the 2nd highest poster in the game that seemingly contridicts that he was "ather quiet until pressed on it", no?
Except I’ve been open about not being 100% confident about it? Like I straight up invited him to call me out. Seems a bit outside of how you’re viewing the situation.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:13 am
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Iconeum
I just realized I unvoted after having voted someone that wasn’t EV, so I’m putting that back

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:14 am
by Nero Cain
you did use the word misinterpret and not misrep. My bad but if your evidence of a 12 player with 4 scum in it is an open and this is a normal....I mean does that really make that much sense to you?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:15 am
by Nero Cain
In post 265, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Iconeum
I just realized I unvoted after having voted someone that wasn’t EV, so I’m putting that back
So are you 1v1 him now or?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:26 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 266, Nero Cain wrote:you did use the word misinterpret and not misrep. My bad but if your evidence of a 12 player with 4 scum in it is an open and this is a normal....I mean does that really make that much sense to you?
Well, what I am doing is extrapolating the means used to balance that setup, as a way to think about how to balance a closed 12p with normal mechanics and roles. My conclusion is while there’s no proof it’s impossible as of right now, it is severely improbable. So I think it does make sense in the way I’m using it.
And I’m not 1v1 on Iconeum, I’m just putting my vote back after I took it off by mistake.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:27 am
by Nero Cain
In post 233, Datisi wrote:
In post 224, Nero Cain wrote:I'm actully town reading you for a pretty silly reason but eh.
can you share with the class?

nero, do you have a track record of reading alchemist?
In post 42, Datisi wrote:
In post 40, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 34, Datisi wrote:mizzy, do you not remember me? :(
Who the fuck are you?
i don't remember speaking to you...?
this kinda angsty angry post is sorta what I associate with newb town and remember of you. Hey I said it was silly.

I think I have a decent track record of reading Alch but my read on him isn't the law or anything. But he doesn't seem scummy to me.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:29 am
by Nero Cain
In post 268, Gamma Emerald wrote:And I’m not 1v1 on Iconeum, I’m just putting my vote back after I took it off by mistake.
but why vote him?

like I'm just a bit confused after

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:32 am
by Gamma Emerald
I don’t only vote if I’m highly confident about a read. That’s the common course on my homesite, but I’ve played so much here vs. over there that I’m more inclined to apply my vote in aims of sorting people.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:41 am
by Datisi
In post 269, Nero Cain wrote:this kinda angsty angry post is sorta what I associate with newb town and remember of you. Hey I said it was silly.
on site for almost a year and a half, getting called newbtown... have we played together before?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:18 am
by tris
In post 207, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 192, tris wrote:why vote for me if you're just going to ignore me?
I'm not ignoring you?
At least I didn't intend to, sorry if it felt like that. :?

I just chose not to explain my vote on you in a very micro/macro level because I feel like it should've been clear what my reasoning was.
i was guessing at what your reasoning was at , but i was drawing a comparison to a similar post by mizzy to question you on what the difference is for you. i think it's probably about how i explicitly stated that i was going to vote in the morning because i didn't know what to do at the moment, but mizzy was basically doing the same thing, just not vocalizing the part about how they'll vote later. mizzy hadn't placed a serious vote, and was talking about how they need to go to bed. the same thing i was trying to communicate. is the fact that i explicitly stated that i was holding off my vote the problem?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:26 am
by tris
In post 211, Datisi wrote:re tris :
maybe criticizing is an indirect way of asking about it, but the tone of "i don't see it, maybe you're scum tmi'ing" didn't sound interrogatory to me but maybe i'm projecting
though it's funny since i don't think i *can* explain it further than " and are gut +town to me"
well, i guess i can't really get much more out of this line of discussion. i still have no idea what you're seeing, but i might unvote you and find somewhere else to go.