In post 200, Princess Leia wrote:(And then takes a much more jokey tone once she stacks up some haters, and starts deflecting all serious questions her way with jokes)
whats one serious question i havent given a serious answer to?
In post 93, RedPanda wrote:not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.
I disagree, town is heavily incentivized to exe scum D1, therefore a gambit like that will not get a lot of weight on it's own imo, especially considered that BM unvoted pretty fast
I don't think we're disagreeing. I just don't see a weak scum player making that move.
Also, missed that post, you consider battle game as a weak scum? (I mean, i don't really know the guy, but he looks experienced at least)
You misunderstood. I just think 90% of scum players in this site are gutless and wouldn't make that move because there was a chance for it to backfire however small and a town player wouldn't care because of the additional wincon.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:07 pm
by RedPanda
I just don't see the reward of towncred which will evaporate as the game goes longer as enough incentive for scum to make that move.
In post 93, RedPanda wrote:not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.
I disagree, town is heavily incentivized to exe scum D1, therefore a gambit like that will not get a lot of weight on it's own imo, especially considered that BM unvoted pretty fast
I don't think we're disagreeing. I just don't see a weak scum player making that move.
ah that wont help you bud, im supergambittastic as scum (and town)
I'm giving you town cred! Don't light it on fire yourself
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:18 pm
by RedPanda
In post 246, Gypyx wrote:Also, i think we probably have 1-2 scum in the more "Lurky" players, do you all agree ? (i'm mainly susp of nosferatu while saying that)
100%. Like you said scum will try and avoid the day 1 execution.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:24 pm
by RedPanda
it's been so long since I played with DGB and I don't even remember if I've ever played with DGB as scum but I've never seen DGB lay low like this but DGB's first post declaring Bm as town and then targeting a lurker next makes up for it.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:25 pm
by Gypyx
In post 253, RedPanda wrote:I just don't see the reward of towncred which will evaporate as the game goes longer as enough incentive for scum to make that move.
I mean, you're kinda proving yourself wrong by giving BM towncred for doing that self-vote then right?
In post 41, shellyc wrote:nah I didn't say I could be a CL, I was pointing out that the c caused much confusion and I should get an alt
continuing with this logic it could start with anything beginning with c.
shelly crayon-lover?
VOTE: BM are you confident you can pass the trial?
Not a great fan of taylors early posts. Jumping on the strange titus opening even though it was clear what she meant, but jumping straight off again to this.
Ill refrain from talking about sending town to trials before catching up because I bet that horsey has already been beaten to a pulp by now.
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:01 am
by Vecna
In post 53, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i mean im pretty serious. BM asked for the vote. i assumed there was either good reason for why or it was some kind of reaction test. either way ill play along
In post 41, shellyc wrote:nah I didn't say I could be a CL, I was pointing out that the c caused much confusion and I should get an alt
continuing with this logic it could start with anything beginning with c.
shelly crayon-lover?
VOTE: BM are you confident you can pass the trial?
whoa how serious are you being here
nice attempt to deflect attention off yourself - im not convinced you care that much about this vote
would you rather I sit here, Tomatoes on my face, being wagoned and sucking my thumb?
I do like this gimmick account
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:05 am
by Not Known 15
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:06 am
by Not Known 15
Princess Leia is being replaced.
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:07 am
by Vecna
In post 93, RedPanda wrote:not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.
more like nutlow-level1-gambitscum
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:10 am
by Vecna
In post 104, EddieFenix wrote:So we have Pob, Taylor, and BM town v scum discussions going on atm. By rolling thru and reading, so far I have PL and as town for now. POB, I'm watching you.
Like, I tried reading this sentence a bunch of times and I still have no idea of your actual stance.
In post 104, EddieFenix wrote:So we have Pob, Taylor, and BM town v scum discussions going on atm. By rolling thru and reading, so far I have PL and as town for now. POB, I'm watching you.
Could you tell what made you think that?
The Page 3 back and forth between TS and Pob immediately caught my attention. Leia is tracking things down and talking things thru. As another thing....
shelly is already getting defensive and deflecting from my Consigliere point and saying she could be a Cult Leader instead? Why doesn't it stand for Commuter, shelly? I'm feeling tunneled already.
do tell me why pob long is "locktown"?
hey buddy quit rockin the boat, Will ya?
You'd want someone to point out WHY they consider you lock town. Pob could also be derp town still trying to find their sea/game legs imo. But, ehhhhh. There's just something that pings me to keep my eye on this. BM is also on my current short list of people to watch. I take a day to get going on things and my reads will swing back and forth depending on how things are going at the time.
Hmm, I kinda like this light analysis of the stuff going on. Not sure I share the conclusion on pob, but it seems to be coming from the right mindset.
In post 104, EddieFenix wrote:So we have Pob, Taylor, and BM town v scum discussions going on atm. By rolling thru and reading, so far I have PL and as town for now. POB, I'm watching you.
Could you tell what made you think that?
The Page 3 back and forth between TS and Pob immediately caught my attention. Leia is tracking things down and talking things thru. As another thing....
shelly is already getting defensive and deflecting from my Consigliere point and saying she could be a Cult Leader instead? Why doesn't it stand for Commuter, shelly? I'm feeling tunneled already.
do tell me why pob long is "locktown"?
hey buddy quit rockin the boat, Will ya?
You'd want someone to point out WHY they consider you lock town. Pob could also be derp town still trying to find their sea/game legs imo. But, ehhhhh. There's just something that pings me to keep my eye on this. BM is also on my current short list of people to watch.
Oh my bad, though PL designated Pob Long at first, yeah that makes sense, i personally have BM as a town lean
Also does that mean you Townread taylor then? Or you think Taylor / Pob are S/S?
I take a day to get going on things and my reads will swing back and forth depending on how things are going at the time
Y'all have a post restriction that forces you to say obvious stuff or what
gypyx can be on my early good boy list for genuine call-outs
In post 4, Gypyx wrote:Wooo hello everyone, btw i have a curse that makes me alternate scum and town games, can i be conftown? K thx
I'm suspicious in part because I looked into this, and it isn't true at all. You rolled town twice in a row, and also rolled scum twice in a row.
Gives me even more inclination that you're setting in gambler's fallacy psychological tricks on us to make us think you're town.
Somebody called for a gambler's fallacy?
In post 6, Gypyx wrote:I have a theory that every trial is influenced by the trials that happened before btw
Also, might be me overanalysing wording but "the game starts with 12 vanilla town and 3 mafia goon" leaves room open for us gaining PR's later, does that seem like a realistic possibility?
OP said that there are 6 possible trials, based on day and alignment. I don't think that they're based on previous results; I think there's D1 town, D1 mafia, D2 town, D2 mafia, D3 town, and D3 mafia, and what those are should already be set. Scum team also decides on consequences, if I understood the setup correctly, so it's possible that their choices will change things more than the results.
In post 20, Battle Mage wrote:big balls Mage here, volunteering to do the first trial.
In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:bad executions can be VERY bad for either team, especially a Day 1 scum execution.
Because this, going willingly to trial D1 is against your alignement in every case, even more than normally
I disagree with gypyx here. You can, as town, get a win for yourself even if your team loses, making a jester-like play possible (but if you jesterwin here, it's because you did well and that will help town). We know that trials are difficult for town to succeed. With no mention of mafia, I'm inferring that it's not difficult for mafia to succeed. However, passing trials helps town, not the team of whoever passed, so sending scum to a trial will give them a situation where they need to decide to help town at the risk of their own success, or fail and hope that one of their buddies also doesn't go to trial.
It's better for us to send scum to trial. It's bad news for us to send lynchbait to trial. It can be good for us to send competent town to trial, but at the end of the day I think it just comes down to, scumhunt and eliminate scum.
In post 93, RedPanda wrote:not gonna lie though I was planning on trying the same thing as battlemage and try and talk myself of the wagon. If it failed I still had a win con in trial. BM is either obvtown or supergambitscum.
I agree with this. I've been trying to think whether it's better to send competent town or scum to trial D1. So BM can be town for now.
Do you think pob long is a cat or a dog person? I also want you to explain what you'd do if you walked into a room and found pob long lying face down on his desk, as if he was planking but his legs are too far up the desk so it's not planking. Note, it is the 15th century in this scenario and mobile phones do not exist. You are also in a remote hut in the Sahara Desert. It is built onto an oasis so it is cool and you have water. You also have clothes and oatmeal, but that's about it.
pob long has a scumread and you are 80% sure he is town. Do you follow him on it?
Definately a cuckatoo person. I bet he'd probably teach him wacky insults in mandarin. Goes well to relax during said planking
