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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:07 pm
by Grendel
I've kinda ignored Bug's Pray becuase I figured a Town!Frogking could sort that slot. I'd say that Im fine with that slot being flipped, but theres a lot of slots i feel that way about, which is concerning.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:10 pm
by Luca Blight
Well Bugs said they'd catch up Today (Tuesday) so I'm waiting to see what they have to offer.

I haven't played with Bugs for a while but I've had success reading them previously.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:20 pm
by Grendel
Luca Blight posts look good on the surface but I dont feel comfortable trying to phase his alignemnt thus far. I guess he's null, and I will keep an eye on him.

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If you have had success reading Bugs Pray previously is it possible that they might be wary of you as scum?

Are they normally iffy activity wise? I only play a portion of a game with them previously and i recall them not saying much.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:26 pm
by Luca Blight
Possibly, as I did catch them as scum in a previous game almost entirely based on their meta being so different to their town game.

I took a break from Mafia of about 7/8 months, however, so it's possible they could have improved their scum game in that time or generally changed their meta so we'll see.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:29 pm
by Luca Blight
They're normally pretty active as both alignments, from what I remember.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:03 pm
by Lunar Martian
In post 250, Grendel wrote:I've kinda ignored Bug's Pray becuase I figured a Town!Frogking could sort that slot. I'd say that Im fine with that slot being flipped, but theres a lot of slots i feel that way about, which is concerning.
I think this post most likely comes from Mafia justifying a willingness to kill anyone over Town being unsure.

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:15 pm
by Luca Blight
Do you have any other reads/thoughts, Lunar?

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:53 pm
by Datisi
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bugspray(3)
~ (14), (36), (51)

Trendall(2)
~ (29), (6)
Lunar Martian(2)
~ (2), (24)
Frogsterking(2)
~ (7), (15)
OutWorldER(1)
~ (13)
NoPowerOverMe(1)
~ (3)
Gamma Emerald(1)
~ (28)
Amélie(1)
~ (18)


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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:57 am
by bugspray
In post 251, Luca Blight wrote:Well Bugs said they'd catch up Today (Tuesday) so I'm waiting to see what they have to offer.

I haven't played with Bugs for a while but I've had success reading them previously.
It's 10 am and I'm gonna go to sleep

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:28 am
by Galron
GB I'm v/la through Sunday

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:42 am
by OutWorldER
really damn slow game, not sure to attribute that to holidays or other reasons. It feels somewhat weird to me because Frogster definitely tried to establish themselves as a town leader figure and yet the game-state has stalled out with no actual pushes or wagons being decided upon. I'm starting to feel better about Frogster because of that since if he were scum I'd think he'd be propped up more by his team and his votes sheeped.

@Momrangal
who exactly was I discrediting there? I stated a worry about Frogster I shared with Galron and stated a read on NPOM.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:43 am
by Gamma Emerald
Kinda been distracted, I noticed someone asked me a question, I’ll get to it today in a few hours most likely

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:06 am
by Grendel
In post 255, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 250, Grendel wrote:I've kinda ignored Bug's Pray becuase I figured a Town!Frogking could sort that slot. I'd say that Im fine with that slot being flipped, but theres a lot of slots i feel that way about, which is concerning.
I think this post most likely comes from Mafia justifying a willingness to kill anyone over Town being unsure.
Its not uncommon for me to give up on finding scum D1 and just be willing to vote anybody not in my TR's as the day goes on. D1 has its uses, but its the hardest day for finding scum. Knowing that can be demotivating. :/

what are some of your other reads so far?

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:12 am
by Grendel
In post 260, OutWorldER wrote:really damn slow game, not sure to attribute that to holidays or other reasons. It feels somewhat weird to me because Frogster definitely tried to establish themselves as a town leader figure and yet the game-state has stalled out with no actual pushes or wagons being decided upon. I'm starting to feel better about Frogster because of that since if he were scum I'd think he'd be propped up more by his team and his votes sheeped.
I guess it could be roster composition + holidays?

a lot of the players on the roster strike me as having lower then average posting rates in other games. Though I haven't done the resrech to back this theory up.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:57 am
by AGamblingPig
acknowledging my prod. I'll do some iso reading tomorrow (i'm currently working and going to a movie tonight, so it can't come before tomorrow but i don;t want to seem like I'm just ignoring the prod).

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:14 am
by Momrangal
Calling NPOM a village idiot subtly removes gravity from whatever push he decides to make

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:21 am
by Momrangal
VOTE: busy

I can hop on that wagon too

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:23 am
by Momrangal
VOTE: outworlder

But this works better. Pressure isn't going to work on that slot I don't think and I would rather push against someone who is more probable scum

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:25 am
by Momrangal
NPOM, amelie, and probably froggie are town in this game.

I especially like Amelie's train of thought posting. It's informative and transparent and something that is harder to fake for newbscum

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:32 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 266, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: busy

I can hop on that wagon too
In post 267, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: outworlder

But this works better. Pressure isn't going to work on that slot I don't think and I would rather push against someone who is more probable scum
:igmeou:

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:01 pm
by OutWorldER
In post 265, Momrangal wrote:Calling NPOM a village idiot subtly removes gravity from whatever push he decides to make
So do you also find people who call other townies "townbeard" or other such terms scummy?

I'm really confused at your logic here. Especially considering that I was defending NPOM there.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:04 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 248, Grendel wrote:
In post 207, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 202, Grendel wrote:. i typically find scum more likely to lurk after submitting responses to the questions until somebody else gets the game out of the "random" phase. Usally because they both dont know how to move out of that stage naturally, and dont have the motivation to try.
I think this is a good evaluation of the idea behind it, at least for the short term “reading people directly off of responses” tactic

Btw about the activity read discussion, I think any scumteam worth their salt would have someone trying to get their foot in the door if the {Gamma, Grendel, Galron, NPOM, frogster} set is all-town
Amelie’s attack on the block kinda feels that way.
In post 240, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think Amelie’s recent effort seems decent.
VOTE: bugspray
Let’s whack some weeds, shall we?
Im inclined to agree with the first post after seeing her more recent posts. not sure why you are seeing her as decent (town?) currently.
I’m trying to lean into a certain aspect of my play, one that is straight up folly to talk about in plain English rn. Let’s just say I believe in giving people enough rope to hang themselves with sometimes.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:08 pm
by Frogsterking
To me it's looking like scum were in the initial low-activity group after all.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:09 pm
by Frogsterking
I'm not really sure how to read Amelie.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:32 pm
by bugspray
after my rice is done and I'm no longer distracteed by the physical sensation of hunter I will do a reread and talk about opinions