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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:53 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 241, marcistar wrote:i dont think darbys scum. whats the possible scum motive here..?
I don’t think Darby is scum either but defending the slot with pressure on it is kinda a basic scum maneuver

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:57 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Let me introduce you to Loftwing and Cool Cookie.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:58 pm
by marcistar
true true but how hard hes sticking to it i dont think its that

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:10 pm
by Datisi
vote count 1.04

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-10-25 14:15:00).


yeet
Val89 [4]:
Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE, T3, marcistar
DArby [2]:
camelCasedSnivy, AliceK
AliceK [1]:
Jolyne
marcistar [1]:
Val89
Not_Mafia [1]:
Not_Mafia
NorwegianboyEE [1]:
DArby
T3 [1]:
Dwlee99

not voting [2]:
redtea, toxictaipan


mod notes~ everyone has confirmed.


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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:56 pm
by DArby
Okay. So. I'm going to try this one more time before I go to sleep because this actually is bothering me.
In post 237, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 234, DArby wrote:How is trying to do that actually reading my argument?
I already said i got your alignment through this.
So i'm not trying to read you, i just am dismantling your case because i'm town and i need to get an elimination on scum in this day phase. And i need influence for that.
Like I said "you're not reading my arguments" and you responded with "I already got you're alignment" ?? I do not care if you town read me. I'm invested in you misconstruing my arguments. You're not dismantling my arguments you're trying to dismantle me the debater. I care much less about being right than clearing information, but I do not feel you are listening to me so I'm trying to explain what I am saying. Like in any capacity.

Also,
In post 236, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think the problem lies in you jumping in the way of a conversation you were never a part of. If you dislike the logic but think the push has value, that’s something you should hold onto until the push has had time to simmer a bit. At that point if you think someone is continuing to utilize bad logic, you can then push that with a stronger conviction than jumping the gun calling it out at the start. Scum reveal themselves most handily when their guards are down, imo.
I get what you're saying and I'm going to utilize this more in the future. But similar to Norweg, I don't think you're properly listening to me either. I saw something I disagreed with and I thought it should be mentioned. I don't think the push against Val has value outside of it just being a push. I found more value in how silly I found the push. Also it's a group discussion. Everyone is a part of it.

To recap:

-I am null on the Val push outside of the value of it being a push.
-I am not trying to double down on my argument because I think I'm right. I'm frustrated because my argument isn't properly heard and I was being belittled so I'm trying to explain what I'm thinking so it can be properly noted by the town. Not to mention I don't townread Norweg outside of this "town block" that's been mentioned, so yes I prodded more.
-I was really interested in Norweg's reaction specifically. I don't see how someone can be so aggressive on a take that has no traction and be seen as town. He said he didn't want a town miselim d1 as if suggesting he was a) confirmed town and b) suggesting he wasn't was an immediate threat to the town is so fucking weird?? I was trying to bring that up in , , and . Val was my secondary focus but because Norweg kept bringing up that as my original post, it kept circling back to Val when Val was! not! my! concern! by the second half of the argument. I was saying that I don't like how you, Norweg, specifically, was responding to my post against you, and you, Norweg, kept bringing it back to my original post when I was trying to expand on my argument that I don't like your response and I didn't think it's pro-town.

Again, this is not me trying to double down on anything. i just really don't like my arguments being misunderstood and I'm trying my best to explain what I'm trying to say.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:04 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Cool.
If you don't have a problem with me aside from NAI stuff like: "i just don't like them" then i'm fine ending the discussion on that topic.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:15 pm
by DArby
In post 255, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Cool.
If you don't have a problem with me aside from NAI stuff like: "i just don't like them" then i'm fine ending the discussion on that topic.
Again not my argument but sure

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:20 pm
by T3
In post 196, DArby wrote:
In post 177, AliceK wrote:
In post 109, marcistar wrote:
In post 87, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't wanna see anyone acting stupid this game, or you'll have my unlimited fury poured into destroying you. When I have a solve, you'll LISTEN TO IT.
depends :P
In post 95, AliceK wrote:VOTE: darby

I don't like his posts.
what dont u like about them
Comment about vig shot sounded fake. Almost like he tried very hard to act as uninformed as possible. This mindset comes from scum.
It’s crazy because this is my first normal game so yes, I am uninformed. Weird read to see ignorance as AI.
scum often fake townslips like that

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:25 pm
by T3
In post 212, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay this is kinda silly BUT t3 didn't even say hi to me
VOTE: T3
Scared of me?
your avatar is too intimdating
i was quaking in my boots when i saw you replace in

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:29 pm
by T3
a lot of unreadable banter
usually when that happens it means my reads are incorrect

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:30 pm
by AliceK
In post 167, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think one of the few posts that pinged me as sus earlier is Alice’s: "T3 is being voted a lot, is there an meta reason for that?" post.
In post 168, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The only way to get reads is to keep the very real threat of DEATH hanging over the heads of those that wish to mislead us.

PROVE ME WRONG.
In post 169, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: AliceK

Where is your head at ATM?
I see your point. I agree however I have a gut feeling that T3 is town and we should look somewhere else.

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:38 pm
by AliceK
In post 199, marcistar wrote:
alicek
you seem fine enough rn, but
In post 93, AliceK wrote:
In post 19, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Hey Alice, remember that time you asked me if i’d buss both my teammates as scum and i answered no then proceeded to endgame as mafia?
:mrgreen:

GOOD TIMES~
Haha, very well played. I was suspecting you, but couldn't find good arguments to accuse you. Just hoped I was paranoid. Didn't happen. :D
do you have any sort of read on norwegianboyee rn..? im curious if anything seems similar to that play you've seen from him, or if you have a townread on him..?
Not much yet. My belief is that people like norwegianboyee you caught in a later stage of the game as they are not doing many mistakes early. Nevertheless, I think in this game he is in "solving" attitude much earlier, so I would say a slight town-lean.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:35 am
by AliceK
Interesting Darby, Norwegianboy are not svs.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:41 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 262, AliceK wrote:Interesting Darby, Norwegianboy are not svs.
?
Did you have reason to think it would be?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:50 am
by AliceK
In post 263, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 262, AliceK wrote:Interesting Darby, Norwegianboy are not svs.
?
Did you have reason to think it would be?
Anyone can be scum and that helps me limit potential mafia teams. An observation for the future.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:59 am
by Val89
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Gut.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:32 am
by T3
Val is basicaly openwolfing at this point so I'm fine with my vote there.
I'd say gamma is the main slot I need to reevaluate.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:47 am
by Jolyne
In post 253, Datisi wrote:
vote count 1.04

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-10-25 14:15:00).


yeet
Val89 [4]:
Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE, T3, marcistar
DArby [2]:
camelCasedSnivy, AliceK
AliceK [1]:
Jolyne
marcistar [1]:
Val89
Not_Mafia [1]:
Not_Mafia
NorwegianboyEE [1]:
DArby
T3 [1]:
Dwlee99

not voting [2]:
redtea, toxictaipan


mod notes~ everyone has confirmed.


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what the fuck are these wagons

i have a lot of work to do when monday rolls around dont i

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:51 am
by Dwlee99
In post 258, T3 wrote:
In post 212, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay this is kinda silly BUT t3 didn't even say hi to me
VOTE: T3
Scared of me?
your avatar is too intimdating
i was quaking in my boots when i saw you replace in
Your profile picture says it all...

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:37 am
by Val89
In post 266, T3 wrote:Val is basicaly openwolfing at this point
Strong statement. Explain?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:36 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 265, Val89 wrote:VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

Gut.
I'm voting you for an much more elaborate reason than "gut".

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:37 am
by NorwegianboyEE
If that's the return then i'm not changing my vote.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:40 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 269, Val89 wrote:
In post 266, T3 wrote:Val is basicaly openwolfing at this point
Strong statement. Explain?
How about you explain why you feel dead on the inside?

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:58 am
by Val89
Feel dead on the inside? What a strange thing to say.

If that comes from a place of genuine concern, I can assure you I am feeling perfectly well.

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:02 am
by marcistar
val what do u think about the wagon on u..? does anyone seem scummy..?