Eh, I feel like his reaction to being wagoned was slightly more towny than not. I'm curious as to why he leans scum on me though, and also Roden implicitly agreeing.
My read on you was pretty much entirely based on your 166. I'm not seeing the throughline of logic or emotion for you to land on a vote for redtea or TRs for Roden/Meg. Which to me smells like scum trying to fake reads.
Egix, do you have any opinions on Enchant getting pissed off by his wagon? I have thoughts but I'd like to hear yours first.
Yes, I am totally going to post exactly how I'm feeling at every step /s. This is why reading people based on "progression" is often flawed.
Regarding Enchant, I really don't mean to sound insensitive by saying this, but I don't feel like he's actually that peed off? I mean, otherwise he wouldn't be joking about anime/weebs, and what else would he expect his scumreads to do apart from pushing back against him?
Eh, I feel like his reaction to being wagoned was slightly more towny than not. I'm curious as to why he leans scum on me though, and also Roden implicitly agreeing.
My read on you was pretty much entirely based on your 166. I'm not seeing the throughline of logic or emotion for you to land on a vote for redtea or TRs for Roden/Meg. Which to me smells like scum trying to fake reads.
Egix, do you have any opinions on Enchant getting pissed off by his wagon? I have thoughts but I'd like to hear yours first.
Yes, I am totally going to post exactly how I'm feeling at every step /s. This is why reading people based on "progression" is often flawed.
Regarding Enchant, I really don't mean to sound insensitive by saying this, but I don't feel like he's actually that peed off? I mean, otherwise he wouldn't be joking about anime/weebs, and what else would he expect his scumreads to do apart from pushing back against him?
I am not joking, that's pure truth.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:16 pm
by redtea
So what?
You think scum jebaited you into quasi-hammering so that they could dogpile you?
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:24 pm
by Enchant
In post 260, redtea wrote:So what?
You think scum jebaited you into quasi-hammering so that they could dogpile you?
I wanted quickhammer, but changed mind when noticed Mag was upset, and decided to hold for now.
Ok, but why do you want a quick hammer? And why is Meg posting emojis enough to stop you from quick hammering?
Why not?
Idk, honestly. Seems like i turned in wimp with high empathy when i am sleepy. Mostly i really don't care.
Why i am not sleeping?
Weeeeeeell! I need to go now seems.
This is also terrible.
Side note: Roden is prob town for actually having common sense around the whole quickhammer situation, and also Azumarill to a lesser extent.
TMI that me and Roden are town?
Somewhat agree with this. Shutting down early quick hammers is low effort town cred for scum, and doesn't even consider the possibility that Gamma could be my buddy and that I was trying to save him. That shouldn't really be seen as town indicative.
Let's try actually one tactic from wiki. Like what we lose?
Example:
If i am Role Oracle/Role Cop, i targeted Egix96 last night and found them as Vanilla.
If i am Parity Cop, i targeted Galron last night.
If i am N0 Cop, then ssbm_Kyouko is Innocent, as well as Galron.
If am other role (Roleblocker/Doctor/Jailkeeper/Bodyguard/Tracker) i used my ability on Gamma Emerald last night, but anything important didn't happen.
If i am Vanilla, disregard that.
If everyone fill this, then PR can leave "crumbs" without being painly obvious? Everyone should make effort to actually make it belivable though.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:20 am
by numberQ
Hmm. I kind of see the utility in doing that. But I also see at least one situation where this will just out a PR, particularly cops. If a non-cop and a cop both target someone who is widely SRed, then the non-cop is essentially forced to claim a guilty verdict as part of this smokescreen strategy. Because if they claim innocent, their SR will have to change to a TR, otherwise they're admitting that they are not the cop and the whole strategy is useless. But if the targeted player actually is town, then the real cop will have to claim an innocent result, otherwise the breadcrumb is useless. Which pretty much outs them as the cop.
Might be more examples of how this outs PRs, haven't sat down and thought through every possible scenario.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:38 am
by Enchant
Then "check" person who you actually townread. Considering Cops need to check actual nullreads, it makes sense.
Giving "Guilty" results is a kind of stupid, because you probably should speak up anyway... Or get them killed otherwise.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:39 am
by Enchant
Basically just faking it, before real invest claims Guilty result, after that we consider our work done.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:31 am
by Enchant
We have two days. Ding ding.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:03 am
by T3
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:34 am
by Almost50
It looks like this will be a low-effort low-posting game
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:43 am
by numberQ
VOTE: Enchant
Biggest wagon right now, and he's on the bottom half of my reads list already. If discussion is stagnating I feel like we should at least keep up the vote momentum.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:48 am
by T3
Prodding PenguinPower.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:12 am
by redtea
@Galron
Roden feels a lot like Deimos did in the first game I played with him. He got rushlimmed d1 for his weird (and similar here) tone and flipped town.
That's to say, some leeway should be given. Tone won't be a reliable way to read him imo
And if it's not that you're talking about then uuuuh I have no idea what you're talking about