FFVII Mafia: Over

[Xtoxm]

And the fact remains that you are scum.

[armlx]

EBWODP: Everyone also has to realize that if xtoxm didn't claim day cop here, he was going to be lynched. This way he gets to mise a mislynch out of it if people listen, possibly more if he randomly guess right.

FOS Zak

specifically for saying he doesn't believe xtoxm and still acting as if he does.

[armlx]

Xtoxm, what is wrong with this summation of the scenario.

1. You pushed a mass claim of roles with the knowledge that scum were likely to have fake claims based on a past DR game.
2. You were attacked by 4-5 people.
3. You claimed vanilla.
4. You were asked to give flavor. You refused.
5. You claimed again, this time day cop with a guilty on someone who attacked you.
6. You were asked again for flavor, and this time left it up to other players to fill in the blanks on your flavor claim.

[Xtoxm]

What do you mean "Randomly guess right"?

What are you on about?

I have a result on you.

[Xtoxm]

6. You were asked again for flavor, and this time left it up to other players to fill in the blanks on your flavor claim.

Directly lying isn't going to help you when the proof is right here in the thread.

[armlx]

Directly lying isn't going to help you when the proof is right here in the thread.

You said you were a German philosopher and waited for other people to extrapolate from that to clarify.

[Xtoxm]

Directly lying isn't going to help you when the proof is right here in the thread.

You said you were a German philosopher and waited for other people to extrapolate from that to clarify.

What, so you're trying to say that I said that by complete coincidence, and it was a lucky guess?

That's a completely poor reason to try and attack me with.

I just wondered if anyone would pick up on it.

MBP impressed me.

[armlx]

What, so you're trying to say that I said that by complete coincidence, and it was a lucky guess?

I'm more making the point you were deliberately difficult with your claim for no real reason.

[Xtoxm]

What, so you're trying to say that I said that by complete coincidence, and it was a lucky guess?

I'm more making the point you were deliberately difficult with your claim for no real reason.

I was frustrated at the town's attitude. And i've already explained all this.

Why am I even bothering arguing with you...I know you are scum...

[Zakeri]

You're arguing with him because he's making very valid points. Points like this:

Everyone also has to realize that if xtoxm didn't claim day cop here, he was going to be lynched. This way he gets to mise a mislynch out of it if people listen, possibly more if he randomly guess right.

Unvote: Armlx
Vote Xtoxm

And I apologize for that. I wasn't considering the context of the claim when I said it.

[armlx]

Why am I even bothering arguing with you...I know you are scum...

I know you are scum as you are lying.

See, I can do the same thing. We are arguing to convince other people we are right. The fact you don't want to do this....

[TonyMontana]

Whoa. Forgot to put this game in my watched list.

The shift from Xoxt to armlx is ridiculous. His stories just don't add up at all, and why are you acting like armlx is expendable? For all you knew he could've been the real daycop. But nevermind that, cause with ABR's counterclaim, this is a no-brainer.

unvote, vote: xtoxm

[Zac]

Unvote MBPikamon

[wolframnhart]

I agree that I have seen ABR lie about his role, even as a townie, but only in one game that I replaced into, and since it is still ongoing I cannot link it right now. I can believe ABR is Cid, but if he has an airship i would almost think he is a Bus Driver role, not someone who builds a powerful scope that can see energy levels and is therefore a cop role.

[CallMeLiam]

While the Cid thing is hard to believe, the claim isn't that much worse than a fairly minor character like Bugenhagen being our daycop. Having read through the whole thread, I'm inclined to

vote: Armlx

and then see how the dice fall tomorrow regarding our two 'day-cops'.

[Grimmy]

Oogey Boogey.
Im now off of Jury Duty!

Sorry Im late everyone. Illhave to read what I missed and play catch up in all my games.

Grimmy
excited about this game, yet sad he didnt get to random vote.

[Xtoxm]

Whoa. Forgot to put this game in my watched list.

The shift from Xoxt to armlx is ridiculous. His stories just don't add up at all, and why are you acting like armlx is expendable? For all you knew he could've been the real daycop. But nevermind that, cause with ABR's counterclaim, this is a no-brainer.

unvote, vote: xtoxm

Lynching a Day Cop on Day One is a no brainer.

You make much sense.

[armlx]

Lynching a "Day Cop" who first false claimed vanilla at L-6ish on Day One is a no brainer.

Fixed, and yes it is.

[CallMeLiam]

Admittedly the vanilla claim was a sticking point for me, but I'm old fashioned in that it'd take a lot for me to lynch a day-cop on day one. Anyway, it occurs to me to ask:
If Cid detects scum by checking for Jenova cells, how does Bugenhagen determine alignment?

[Xtoxm]

All it says is that I look for Shinra Operatives, basically.

I'm pretty sure ABR is not telling teh truth though.

It makes sense for me given i'm Ex-Shinra, I guess.

[CallMeLiam]

Other than your own role being damn similar, why are you so sure ABR is lying?

[armlx]

Admittedly the vanilla claim was a sticking point for me, but I'm old fashioned in that it'd take a lot for me to lynch a day-cop on day one.

So, in your opinion, how big of a scum tell is lying about your role?

[Xtoxm]

Because the nature of his claim makes me think it is not a serious claim, and his record of faking like this before as a town makes me think he's just a stubborn townie trying to get me lynched (or maybe a scum trying to bask off his meta, but I doubt it, because it's too likely to get him killed).

[CallMeLiam]

Admittedly the vanilla claim was a sticking point for me, but I'm old fashioned in that it'd take a lot for me to lynch a day-cop on day one.

So, in your opinion, how big of a scum tell is lying about your role?

I dunno about being a scum tell, but it certainly isn't helpful. It adds a lot of doubt to a claim but I've seen power roles fake-claim vanilla and vanillas fake-claim power in attempts to be pro-town. Obviously it adds an element of doubt to his claim, but I am not going to support lynch a claimed cop on D1, countered or no.

[armlx]

Can you explain why xtoxm would want to fake claim at L-6ish or whatever it was?