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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:23 am
by Majiffy
Bacde wrote:and should have known that buldermar was town

and should be able to tell that I'm town right now

Why and why.

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:23 am
by Viomi
Bacde wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:...see now I'm fucking worried because the guy I'm voting for lurking through the game is buddying up to me in the most transparent way possible on the guy I want to lynch because his entire playstyle consists of "you attacked me? must be scum! LOL I'M GOOD AT THIS GAME".
Admittedly that is assuaged a little by the fact that bork probably has some buddies out there on top of the remaining Locust, but still.

whats awesome is that I'm the one who just replaced into a game and didn't read anything yet was still able to see buldermar was town; and for some reason you are making fun of
my
playing ability

but its ok you can go ahead and strong-arm your way into getting everything done your way, without considering the intelligence of your peers

(Just an FYI I'm pretty sure Cydonia is a lot more logical than you from what I've seen ;) )

Bacde wrote:also viomi tends to push on me when she is scum, at least in my experience

You were obviously trying to misrep me as a defense. I'm tired of you not being dead so... Hurry up and die already .~.

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:25 am
by Bacde
Majiffy wrote:
Bacde wrote:and should have known that buldermar was town

and should be able to tell that I'm town right now

Why and why.

can't talk about that

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:25 am
by Knight of Cydonia
...this (Bacde/Viomi) is reading a lot like an argument that has scum on at least one side of it. Viomi's logic is better, I'm just worried it's only because she's finally under some pressure. Bacde just reads like a LOT of flailing and alternating between "you're better than this, you're town come on" and "you're better than this so you're scum" appeals.
Could one of you give us a link to this game which Bacde's case appears to be built on?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:25 am
by Majiffy
Bacde wrote:
Majiffy wrote:
Bacde wrote:and should have known that buldermar was town

and should be able to tell that I'm town right now

Why and why.

can't talk about that

LOL

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:27 am
by Bacde
Viomi wrote:
Bacde wrote:
Knight of Cydonia wrote:...see now I'm fucking worried because the guy I'm voting for lurking through the game is buddying up to me in the most transparent way possible on the guy I want to lynch because his entire playstyle consists of "you attacked me? must be scum! LOL I'M GOOD AT THIS GAME".
Admittedly that is assuaged a little by the fact that bork probably has some buddies out there on top of the remaining Locust, but still.

whats awesome is that I'm the one who just replaced into a game and didn't read anything yet was still able to see buldermar was town; and for some reason you are making fun of
my
playing ability

but its ok you can go ahead and strong-arm your way into getting everything done your way, without considering the intelligence of your peers

(Just an FYI I'm pretty sure Cydonia is a lot more logical than you from what I've seen ;) )

Bacde wrote:also viomi tends to push on me when she is scum, at least in my experience

You were obviously trying to misrep me as a defense. I'm tired of you not being dead so... Hurry up and die already .~.

eh Cydonia is probably more logical than me but that doesn't make him correct

players who are locked into a "logical-only" type playstyle are often offended (by offended I mean assume that I'm scum) by my whimsical antics

tbh I'm not sure if you are scum or not but unless you vote majiffy and turn this into a viable bandwagon you are probably getting lynched. Sorry

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:31 am
by Bacde
Knight of Cydonia wrote:...this (Bacde/Viomi) is reading a lot like an argument that has scum on at least one side of it. Viomi's logic is better, I'm just worried it's only because she's finally under some pressure. Bacde just reads like a LOT of flailing and alternating between "you're better than this, you're town come on" and "you're better than this so you're scum" appeals.
Could one of you give us a link to this game which Bacde's case appears to be built on?

The game in question is right here:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25439

It was also a Venmar-mod which is cool

note that I exhibited a similar whimsical playstyle, and also note that viomi pushed on me as scum (I think) because she thought I would be an easy ML

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:32 am
by Majiffy
Bacde wrote:tbh I'm not sure if you are scum or not but unless you vote majiffy and turn this into a viable bandwagon you are probably getting lynched. Sorry

Dat false dichotomy. :cool:

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:35 am
by Bacde
Knight of Cydonia wrote:...this (Bacde/Viomi) is reading a lot like an argument that has scum on at least one side of it. Viomi's logic is better, I'm just worried it's only because she's finally under some pressure. Bacde just reads like a LOT of flailing and alternating between "you're better than this, you're town come on" and "you're better than this so you're scum" appeals.
Could one of you give us a link to this game which Bacde's case appears to be built on?

I think reading this post might help you gain some insight into how I play this game

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4696085

Whats interesting to note about this post is that just two (2) posts before it, I had a completely different read on a player in the game, before switching it back at someone's request. I was town. Viomi pushed on me for that post, and was scum

I honestly don't even understand why Viomi is voting me today?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:35 am
by Bacde
Majiffy wrote:
Bacde wrote:
Majiffy wrote:
Bacde wrote:and should have known that buldermar was town

and should be able to tell that I'm town right now

Why and why.

can't talk about that

LOL

You realize that in my eyes, this post confirms you as scum

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:37 am
by Majiffy
Bacde wrote:
Majiffy wrote:
Bacde wrote:
Majiffy wrote:
Bacde wrote:and should have known that buldermar was town

and should be able to tell that I'm town right now

Why and why.

can't talk about that

LOL

You realize that in my eyes, this post confirms you as scum

You realize that in my eyes, all your posts confirm you as scum.

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:38 am
by Bacde
I just wanna say that right now I have 100% faith in my majiffy-scum read so even if I get lynched I want him gone the next day

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:46 am
by Majiffy
I just wanna say that right now I have 100% faith in my bacde-scum read so even if I get lynched I want him gone the next day

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:47 am
by Knight of Cydonia
...so because you played like a VI with Viomi before and as scum she got an easy mislynch because of it, she shouldn't want to lynch you for playing like a VI again and the fact that she does makes her scummy?
Except, uh... you weren't mislynched that game. You were nightkilled. And the town mason/vig (DGB) agreed that you looked like a horrible scum player too, early on D1, before you were shot by the scum much later in the game after getting nowhere near being lynched during. Doesn't read like someone who pushed on you expecting an easy ML to be honest. In fact, the scum QT reveals they shot you for being one of the more active players.
Not sure I buy it.

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:52 am
by Bacde
Knight of Cydonia wrote:...so because you played like a VI with Viomi before and as scum she got an easy mislynch because of it, she shouldn't want to lynch you for playing like a VI again and the fact that she does makes her scummy?
Except, uh... you weren't mislynched that game. You were nightkilled. And the town mason/vig (DGB) agreed that you looked like a horrible scum player too, early on D1, before you were shot by the scum much later in the game after getting nowhere near being lynched during. Doesn't read like someone who pushed on you expecting an easy ML to be honest. In fact, the scum QT reveals they shot you for being one of the more active players.
Not sure I buy it.

uh, I never said she got an easy mislynch?

I'm glad you read the game though

part of my whole argument is that I think she was pushing on what she thinks is an easy ML but actually isnt--I'm hard to lynch when I'm town (which you are discovering)

A big part of our disagreement has to do with my playstyle--you are saying that I played as a VI yet obviously I was enough of a town power to be targetted to be killed

I'm not bad at this game dude

now unvote me and vote for the real scum which is majiffy. He can't even make an argument besides just repeating what I'm saying (lol)

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:54 am
by Bacde
Also, if you think I play as a VI as town and you've been calling me an idiot all game, aren't I playing to my town meta?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:59 am
by Knight of Cydonia
No, I think you just permanently play as an idiot regardless of alignment and then bring up your "whimsical playstyle" which appears to be a constant and attempt to portray it as a town tell when in reality it's null at best.

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:02 am
by Bacde
okay, I can understand you thinking that my playstyle is a null tell.

I'm cool with that, I never purported that it was a towntell (I just brought it up b/c I thought you were using it as a scumtell)

I guess I'm done defending myself from you? I dunno what else you want since I'm town and you voted me for the post I made to purposely piss you off (which is why I don't think you are being perfectly logical right now)

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:04 am
by Bacde
just please promise me that you notice that you actually have reasoning or whatever for voting me

but majiffy is literally just trying balls-out to get the lynch through with no thought process whatsoever

just don't be blind to that please

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:05 am
by Majiffy
Bacde wrote:now unvote me and vote for the real scum which is majiffy. He can't even make an argument besides just repeating what I'm saying (lol)

And your case on me is...?

:cool: That's what I thought.

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:06 am
by Bacde
and your case on me is...?

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:09 am
by Bacde
Basically my case on you is:

1) Based on your interactions w/ piratecat yesterday I figured one of the two of you were mafia (and now piratecat is dead)
2) You pushed on buldermar despite him being town, when I think you should have seen that buldermar was town and I think you should understand why I also saw buldermar as town
3) You are pushing on me today with no reasoning and now are acting like I am "confirmed" scum despite you having no reasoning to hop the BW in the first place
4) You are actually pretty good at reading me when I am town, which you have failed to do this game (because yesterday everyone was like "LOLZ LYNCH BULDER GET BACDE NEXT" which you decided to just slip into w/ everyone else)

basically, I can understand where KoC is coming from, but you I have no idea

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:10 am
by Majiffy
Excellent retort young laddie! I could have never seen that coming! :roll:


Your general interaction re: my push on Buldermar.

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:10 am
by Majiffy
Oh you ninja'ed me.

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:10 am
by Bacde
Majiffy wrote:Excellent retort young laddie! I could have never seen that coming! :roll:


Your general interaction re: my push on Buldermar.

lol so basically you got nothin and you still tried to discredit me anyway?