In post 2491, Thor665 wrote:I feel your attitude is tepid. You are extroverting emotions, but I do not believe they are reflected by your in-game acts.
When I have rage that people are ignoring scum - I am constantly talkign about the scum (and voting them) you are doing neither with Doublade.
I have discussed the issue with Xay - I still stand by the opinion that your defense felt weird. Also, if bad cases were all going to be attacked, you should not have time for anything else.
You also are focusing oddly on a weird slap fight with Mastin, complaining that they aren't listening, when, frankly, neither of you appear to be talking with each other - you are both talking at each other. I find it equally poor on both fronts, but don't get any more drive from you in that than I do from Mastin.
You also just sort of drifted onto the ZZZX vote. I am happy to have the support there, I will admit, but it's not like I feel you are excited by this wagon, it feels more like you're simply on it.
I did vote Doublade. I'm still saying Doublade is scum. However, I wasn't going to get a Doublade lynch. You yourself have said that players need to be closing the wagons. I took the initiative to do that. I am talking about Doublade but I feel like I might as well be talking to a brick wall. I put a case. People say it sucks. No reason why. I ask people defending Doublade, like Mastin, to say why Doublade is town or produce any content. I get nothing. So yeah, at some point I have to move over to get a lynch at all. Am I happy about it? Hell no.
I am trying to talk to Mastin. I'm using pretty much the same tone with both Mastin and Antihero but only Antihero seems to be responding. Mastin just says LOL! Nope Scum. That's not a conversation. That's a tape recorded message on loop.
The criticism on the ZZZX wagon is valid. It's not my favorite. I'd rather be voting for Doublade or Xay. Yet, those aren't going anywhere and we need a lynch. If a Doublade or Xay wagon sprung up fast, I'd be all over those.
Well can I ask you a question my friend?
How the fuck is the case on me valid if I explained and proved that it is invalid?
General things scum do case become invalid if proven that town-same person in the same time. Did the same thing. It becomes more of a null-read
Now say it in my face. You think that me not giving a readlist while doing the same in a town game in the same period is a scum-tell
SAY IT.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:04 am
by ZZZX
I have been giving alot of effort to protect my self. SS is using a defence of "Im OBV TOWN CLEAR IC HUR DUR" And yet you guys go @ me for not giving a list (which I did but it wasnt complete?) and ... I did the same in my completed town games? Am I wrong? This is clearly scum lead.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:39 am
by Dry-fit
In post 2494, Saki wrote:this is me declaring that I may or may not hammer the first wagon to get to l-1
This is just awful and another reason why you're scum. If your town you should want to have some effect on the direction the lynch goes in. If you don't, you just increase the ability of scum to dictate the formation of lynches, since they will make up a greater percentage of the players making a difference. Plus you're avoiding any responsibility for anything here. Unortunately you're not getting lynched today but if you're town you need to make a meaning vote today. Mastin you need to reevaluate this read.
She ignored my question to her about Saki in post 1934. She did the weird thing where she asked what purpose a wagon on her would have. Somehow though Tiphaine might be scum but then makes a useless post saying he "might actually be town." And now places a terrible vote on Eddie.
In post 2459, The Necromancers wrote:everyone else is pending/reserve judgement/whatever; the jon reachout is Smurfing the bed, but the titus one might go better, we'll see
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:52 pm
by Malakittens
Or Eddie smells like scum from things he has said.
I'm pretty VLA and I made this clear to all mods before I replaced into some games.
Since I don't know how long until my next posts I'm going to:
VOTE: Spring
it's been stated in posts that i dislike MS posts. Sakura has posted nothing super specatale and it doesnt feel like town-MS.
Also DryFit -- I missed your question to be brutally fair. I'll go back and ISO you after this post.
In post 2459, The Necromancers wrote:everyone else is pending/reserve judgement/whatever; the jon reachout is Smurfing the bed, but the titus one might go better, we'll see
ok
there's a fundamental disconnect with me here because i don't know why it follows from the second quote that i need to talk about you OR how that relates to my reads on jon and titus OR why my read on you should be more important than reads on jon and titus.
you want to treat me like i'm a stupid sack of shit?
fine.
i'm a stupid sack of shit.
now walk me through what your gripe is.
mastin's already talked the zzzx read to death with you and i agree with mastin. and if you want to gripe at not running someone up to a claim *points at the votecount* our wagon is bigger.
i know metalsonic isn't the VI he's cosplaying here. townmetalsonic is intelligent and scumhunts and tries to figure stuff out. that's not what's happening here.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:55 pm
by Titus
ZZZX, I think you are not using the word valid correctly. A valid case is one that if it the premises are true then the conclusion is true. Thor's argument is valid.
If you lied about having reads, you are probably scum.
I don't think anyone debates that theory.
The debate comes from arguing whether or not you were lying. The evidence of you possibly doing something in a town game is relevant but not determinative in determining soundness.
Soundness is up for debate. I am sympathetic bc of what happened to me at the earlier point but I am not a fan of your reactions.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:05 pm
by Doublade
In post 2502, ZZZX wrote:I have been giving alot of effort to protect my self. SS is using a defence of "Im OBV TOWN CLEAR IC HUR DUR" And yet you guys go @ me for not giving a list (which I did but it wasnt complete?) and ... I did the same in my completed town games? Am I wrong? This is clearly scum lead.
ZZZX is still survivalist and disgusting. Lynch him.
Like, you know how back in elementary school, your teachers would tell you to "show, not tell" in your writing?? Do that instead, please. I would vote him, but I'm already voting him.
[caled]
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:50 pm
by Spring Starflower
In post 2505, Malakittens wrote:it's been stated in posts that i dislike MS posts. Sakura has posted nothing super specatale and it doesnt feel like town-MS.
sakura has posting nothing.
mala is scum
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:51 pm
by Spring Starflower
In post 2507, The Necromancers wrote:i know metalsonic isn't the VI he's cosplaying here. townmetalsonic is intelligent and scumhunts and tries to figure stuff out. that's not what's happening here.
gee thanks
but scumetalsonic is also intelligent so
all you need to do is to trust i am conftown and just look at another wagon instead.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:54 pm
by Spring Starflower
scum are zzzx and mala and jon just lynch this 3
the rest of the scum are open
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:20 pm
by Bulbazak
Field Polarity:
Light
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:39 pm
by TiphaineDeath
You keep saying that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:48 pm
by Titus
In post 2514, TiphaineDeath wrote:You keep saying that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Objection: Vague! Who is you? What is the word? Why do you think that person using that word doesn't know what it means?
Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:55 pm
by TiphaineDeath
Spring, keeps saying conftown. I am quoting princess bride to show people exactly how silly he sounds.
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