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The point here is not whether the replace out is null. I can give you that it can be null. The point here is that Tbone, Reck and Ceph are all pretty obviously scum and should be lynched yet you're voting based on a feeling that LLD COULD have faked her dislike for the game when it's equally likely it was genuine

Sell me on them.

↑ notscience wrote:Re the second: what if she thought she had time then suddenly life hit her hard?

And do you think that, regardless of alignment, the answers to most of those questions is no, and she had the opportunity to bow out and let someone else deal with this game, she would take it?

Not everyone looks at replacing out the same way. For example I avoid it at all costs if I can't help otherwise. If you want to argue nullness, staying and being useless vs replacing out are both not things to scumread someone over. It depends on the player.

But LLD's like or dislike of a game, LLD's commitment to the game, LLD's attitude to playing town vs. scum has nothing to do with her alignment and is no reason you should be basing a read on that slot! She and Greyice have plenty of actual substance with which to develop a read on and you're fixated on the ONE thing that is irrelevant concerning that slot!

↑ Wisdom wrote:This game is solved, it's Ceph/Tbone/Reck. You just have to listen to me and stop being stupid.

You know what's worse than being arrogant? Being arrogant and wrong.

Bite me.

too bad im right

And you proved it by refusing to lynching Ceph. Now it's time to refuse to lynch Tbone, am I right?

And when confronted on your reads you shut down, and obviously that's a problem you need to do some soul-searching for. Because I'm not the only one telling you that you're wrong.

↑ Wisdom wrote:The point here is not whether the replace out is null. I can give you that it can be null. The point here is that Tbone, Reck and Ceph are all pretty obviously scum and should be lynched yet you're voting based on a feeling that LLD COULD have faked her dislike for the game when it's equally likely it was genuine

↑ T-Bone wrote:I prefer to think he replaced out because he isn't a good player.

yeah he signed up to play team mafia just to replace out

You are not even trying to make sense

I don't fucking know?

I dislike his claim re: Rhinox but uh

The whole random tracker thing is what's hanging me up. Why would he make up that HE RANDOMLY GOT A TRACKER RESULT? That's so batshit.

Oh also, Wisdom, what happened to NO WE ARE LYNCHING CEPH RA RA RA?

I think it's time to massclaim, honestly. There are a ton of claims out on the table already.

I'll lynch Ceph in a heartbeat, as I will lynch you. Tbone has just straightforwardly claimed scum with saying he targetted Rhinox, so

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:The whole random tracker thing is what's hanging me up. Why would he make up that HE RANDOMLY GOT A TRACKER RESULT? That's so batshit.

Because he probably did get one.

When confronted with the fact that I am probably wrong, I changed focus and I blocked Rhinox because I all but cleared two of my top scumreads, and he would have been playing a good scum game if scum.

But you're gonna drag the whole game down with you because you can't understand what is going on in the thread, and when confronted by that fact you get dismissive and shut everything down in favor of your rhetoric. It's pretty frustrating knowing that you will allow yourself to be obviously wrong and not think 'maybe I should reevaluate'. It's the same damn thing Shos is doing and now you're following suit.

Wisdom wrote:

↑ T-Bone wrote:I prefer to think he replaced out because he isn't a good player.

yeah he signed up to play team mafia just to replace out

You are not even trying to make sense

No that's a personal thing because he organized a big fucking hydra for Ceph's last game and then fucking abandoned it to me immediately at a time when I couldn't devote full-time to playing mafia. I was so glad he replaced out so I didn't have to deal with that. I didn't get so much as an apology from any of them for flaking on me.

I dunno, tbh Rhinox was a pretty big ? on my list and I didn't have very good feelings about him, so I was sorta shocked when he died.

Hey Wisdom, you know that in a game about different people coming to conclusions, people are going to have different opinions, right? You realize that acting like a fucking asshole isn't going to do anything, and that maybe sometimes you should consider other people don't hold your viewpoint, right?

I don't have anything to reevaluate. You have been obvscum all game and today you even claimed scum. PoE also agrees with me. Things are crystal clear.

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:I don't fucking know?

I dislike his claim re: Rhinox but uh

The whole random tracker thing is what's hanging me up. Why would he make up that HE RANDOMLY GOT A TRACKER RESULT? That's so batshit.

Oh also, Wisdom, what happened to NO WE ARE LYNCHING CEPH RA RA RA?

I think it's time to massclaim, honestly. There are a ton of claims out on the table already.

He probably got a random tracker result. There's probably a role where the mod delivers the result to the wrong player.

We are NOT massclaiming today, we are lynching scum today, and massclaiming tomorrow so they don't get even more information.

And if I die, NS is confirmed town, no matter how obnoxious he is.

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:I dunno, tbh Rhinox was a pretty big ? on my list and I didn't have very good feelings about him, so I was sorta shocked when he died.

rofl

Rhinox was the fucking most obvious town in the game

obv buddy defending is obv

No Reck, why would he do that? We should ALL be coming to the same conclusion as him all the time. I made a bunch of posts about that very thing and the only thing he could respond to is my jab at Who.

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:Hey Wisdom, you do know that in a game about different people coming to conclusions, people are going to have different opinions, right? You do realize that acting like a fucking asshole isn't going to do anything, and that maybe sometimes you should consider other people don't hold your viewpoint, right?

mhm! I've found the scum, and I'm making the town stop being stupid and sheep me. I could care less whether scum hold my viewpoint or not.

Man Reck, remember the last time we were a scumteam and how obvious we were together? He's got us!

↑ Wisdom wrote:Things are crystal clear.

No, they're not. You're bad at this game, and you're arrogant about how bad you are, to boot. Please go back into retirement/irrelevancy, and apologize to Bulba/mollie/Ank for ruining their team.

Get mollie back in here to read me properly, thanks.

Ignoring Wisdom forever because he's a fucking basket case.
Not even interested in engaging on a civil or rational level.
You're shit at this game. I'm fucking town. Dunno about Ceph or Tbone, but I know that based on my role PM, you're wrong, and that gives me free reign to discredit and ignore every fucking thing you have to say.

↑ T-Bone wrote:Man Reck, remember the last time we were a scumteam and how obvious we were together? He's got us!

When were we scum together?

Last team mafia. I was making a meta joke since Wisdom likes meta but it sounded better in my head.

Wisdom: 'LYNCH FUCKING TBONE WHY ARENT YOU LYNCHING TBONE'
Me: 'id sorta rather consider his claim and think for a bit because I need to process stuff because this isn't fucking epicmafia'
Wisdom: 'OMFG DEFENDING YOUR BUDDY BY STALLING LOL'

^ mark of a true genius imo