Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[AaronFrost]

We shld probably lynch Flubz this phase pals
I know this is weak reasoning but it's +1'd by policy

Yeah we need to lynch Flubb. No way in hell am I ever investigating him.

[AaronFrost]

Didn't skitter win as scum by clearing a townie recently?

Not sure but it wouldn't surprise me if she did. Scum skitter is scary man.

[Kerset]

Maybe he thinks that you have to be NK soon anyway. Maybe he wanted to show that he investigated suspicious person for credibility. Maybe both or none of those. He had to reveal someone anyway.

[Wooper]

gunsmith innos in this game aren't really hard innos; at that point i was still kinda scum-reading him on play but wasn't particularly interested in pushing him given the result, so he ended up ~nullscum

given the cop claim he's p much clear now tho

This actually makes sense if skitt thought there was a chance of me being a scum doc.

What was with the 'Aaron might be a N2 vig' then?

I was vig distancing ofc
you were like "let me survive n2!!!" so optically I get why it looked kinda like it from her pov

[Wooper]

We shld probably lynch Flubz this phase pals
I know this is weak reasoning but it's +1'd by policy

Yeah we need to lynch Flubb. No way in hell am I ever investigating him.

I'd cop in {skit, kerset} personally, adorbs as outlier

[Wooper]

Don't clear skitter mechanically unless she's cop inno'd friends /o/
she's the deepwolf and she knows it!

[AaronFrost]

gunsmith innos in this game aren't really hard innos; at that point i was still kinda scum-reading him on play but wasn't particularly interested in pushing him given the result, so he ended up ~nullscum

given the cop claim he's p much clear now tho

This actually makes sense if skitt thought there was a chance of me being a scum doc.

What was with the 'Aaron might be a N2 vig' then?

I was vig distancing ofc
you were like "let me survive n2!!!" so optically I get why it looked kinda like it from her pov

No I meant why would skitter say that if she knew that I had no gun. Because vig shows up as having a gun right?

PEDIT: Trust me I've not cleared skitter by any means. I'm not sure I'll ever trust skitter again after Mini 2099

[Wooper]

HARDCLAIM BLONDE IRL
that's a good pickup

[Kerset]

wooper what did you think about s_s after d2?

[Sirfetchd]

Duck, skit and flub are like both super scum. We do one today and the other tomorrow. I don't think it makes a difference who which is why I didn't move agree skits claim. Both are like 99.99999999999 percent scum bc afaik skit doesn't suffer amnesia episodes and flub was the only blocked person on a kill less night.

[Something_Smart]

UNVOTE:
Need a VC but intent to vote Flubber, all else being equal I'd like to leave the gunsmith alive another day.

[Wooper]

wooper what did you think about s_s after d2?

iirc still like nulltownish but i was missing him by eod2

[Wooper]

Duck, skit and flub are like both super scum. We do one today and the other tomorrow. I don't think it makes a difference who which is why I didn't move agree skits claim. Both are like 99.99999999999 percent scum bc afaik skit doesn't suffer amnesia episodes and flub was the only blocked person on a kill less night.

yeah

[Wooper]

skitz i'm less sure on than flubz

[Flubbernugget]

SS, I missed where you said you commuted last night

I thought scumclaim from skitter came from getting a no result on you?

[Flubbernugget]

Whatever was wrong with her claim, her activity nosedived after being called out and it's not a weekend

[Sirfetchd]

Dw, we're gonna lynch her tomorrow.

[Flubbernugget]

Smith's gonna have 72 ish hours to regroup her thoughts and fight out of a lynch tomorrow so a strong consensus as to why she's the definite lynch tomorrow is pretty damn important

[Flubbernugget]

Skitt *

[skitter30]

ok w/e nobody noticed

xayah wasn't the scum kill, i'm n2 vig

i thought that aaron was n2 vig

Skitter....explain this as well, please.

i don't really like to claim for other people or out other people's roles for them prematurely (see: egix in the c++ that just ended where i figured out he was a doc very early and very deliberately didn't say that for like three irl weeks and even kinda lynched someone else without saying why because i thought they were trying to lynch them, all instead of just saying i was townreading him strongly or something, oops).
that's what aaron had been softing day2 so i was kinda running with it for the moment; i was p sure massclaim was going to be today/in the immediate future and since i wasn't, like, dead i knew i'd have the opportunity to explicitly share the result

if i were scum and making this up i:

- could have faked a result on like xayah or rb or someone already dead
- wouldn't inno the cop claim of all people
- wouldn't claim a no result on a night that we're almost for sure missing an nk

i like to imagine that i'm decent enough at this game as scum that i wouldn't deliberately put myself in a shitty position that i know would look bad. like you literally just saw scum!me pull this off about a billion times better than i'd have to be doing here so we know i could make something up that sounds fairly plausible so like ... what is scum!me even doing here ... ?

i don't really do crumbs, and i felt like it would have been p clear what my result was given how i just dropped the read out of nowhere. given that you and everyone else is telling me that it wasn't really obvious then i guess wasn't as clear i could have been

[skitter30]

Skitter checked Aaron on N1 and she put Aaron as nullscum on D2 even though she cleared Aaron with her night action. Skitter scum reading Aaron after checking him looks inconsistent and I can see a Billy/Flub/Skitter scum team.

If these really are the scum team then I must have scum read these players correctly with my reads.

yeah this is kinda townie

[skitter30]

For example, I could see a Skitter/Suji possibility.

The only reason I TR Suji was because of his interactions with Billy.

ok
why do you see me/suji?

[skitter30]

For example, I could see a Skitter/Suji possibility.

The only reason I TR Suji was because of his interactions with Billy.

Where does the nk go in that situation. Is Xayah double shot?

Skitter might have tried to NK SS instead of investigating him.

yes, and claiming a no result as scum in that situation is a great plan, i agree

[skitter30]

For example, I could see a Skitter/Suji possibility.

The only reason I TR Suji was because of his interactions with Billy.

Do they both hard secure their team mate's death. Like skitter MADE billy the Lynch, p much singlehandedly. Which I can see. I feel like skitter probably coaches Suji and billy better than that.

Err, no, I made the Billy lynch single-handedly, not Skitter.

Suji jumped on when Billy was beyond saving.

i mean, i dont' think the wagon would have shifted to billy if i hadn't voted him at that point in the day, but ok

[Sirfetchd]

Like really skit?

Even the best players fuck up. N's look at my thumb comes to mind. And that's what I think has happened here. If flub didn't have this mechanical guilty you would be the sole Lynch right now. As Kuri would say, this is some serious fucking mist and non-negotiable, you are tomorrow.