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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:58 pm
by Binatog13
now many votes on NB?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:58 pm
by Binatog13
how*

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:00 pm
by quiet
8 votes on by my count.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:00 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2496, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2495, Gamma Emerald wrote:Momrangal, and chkflip
Please show me where I pushed these slots. I’ll wait.
You had them in your alt partial team guess
Either you believe they can be scum or you threw people you think are town in there for no reason. Is your PoE really so narrow you had to do that?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:02 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2503, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2496, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2495, Gamma Emerald wrote:Momrangal, and chkflip
Please show me where I pushed these slots. I’ll wait.
You had them in your alt partial team guess
Either you believe they can be scum or you threw people you think are town in there for no reason. Is your PoE really so narrow you had to do that?
No I didn’t. I was saying that it is entirely possible my view of the game is completely off, I suck, and those players that I TR in that list are actually Scum. I was heavily implying that I currently have TRs there.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:03 pm
by quiet
Yeah it looks like it’s E-2.

We maybe want to wait for Norfolk to get on?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:05 pm
by quiet
In the words of BC,

Gamma, Andre, you’re both town :///

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:06 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2504, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2503, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2496, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2495, Gamma Emerald wrote:Momrangal, and chkflip
Please show me where I pushed these slots. I’ll wait.
You had them in your alt partial team guess
Either you believe they can be scum or you threw people you think are town in there for no reason. Is your PoE really so narrow you had to do that?
No I didn’t. I was saying that it is entirely possible my view of the game is completely off, I suck, and those players that I TR in that list are actually Scum. I was heavily implying that I currently have TRs there.
What is your PoE rn?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:07 pm
by Andresvmb
Well Gamma seems intent on finding something that just isn’t there and I don’t get it. And it’s frustrating because Gamma is actually my top TR.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:09 pm
by Andresvmb
I have the game like this right now:

Town
{Nero Cain [Vanilla Town], MiniMegabyte/Mathblade [Town Role Watcher]}
Lean Town
{CheekyTeeky/Not_Mafia, Gamma Emerald, Momrangal}
Slight Lean Town
{Binatog13, Vaxkiller, BBMolla, Titus, chkflip}
Neutral
{plusJOYED, Hayker, quiet}
Slight Lean Scum
{DGB, NPOM/Bypasser Catcher, Rannygazoo}
Lean Scum
{NorwegianboyEE, Luca Blight}
Scum
{Norfolk Boy1}

BBMolla is my most uncertain Town Read, so take that one with a grain of salt. If Norfolk flips Town, flip with Not_Mafia obviously.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:11 pm
by Andresvmb
plus and Hayker I just think is tough. And quiet could really swing either way. They could be playing up their newness to make bad suggestions. But I just think the tone is alright so that explains the positioning.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:12 pm
by Andresvmb
I don’t even know if my distribution makes any sense at all. I just try to make snap judgments and constantly update based on what I’m reading.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:19 pm
by Andresvmb
Now Momrangal has a core of 3 that she thinks are Town that I have all in my POE - DGB, Norwegian, Ranny. I think the view on DGB is overly optimistic. But I just don’t know that one I could very easily be very wrong on. I don’t think I’m completely wrong that {Ranny, Norwegian} contains 1 Scum, but if you trust Mom, then ignore me right?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:22 pm
by Andresvmb
The triumvirate that pushed for Nero the loudest yesterday - Luca, Norwegian, Bypass. It’s within the realm of possibility they’re all misguided Town. Particularly if Norfolk flips Scum. But I just don’t know - it’s the argument that was used that makes me think there’s something there. And I would never assume that I’m exactly right on Luca and the other two are misguided, despite their constant attacks on my slot.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:25 pm
by Andresvmb
Oh and Norwegian’s suggestion that the wagon could have been pure but not really, and that the NK points to Titus? Could be really what Norwegian thinks is reasonable. I think it’s Scummy.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:30 pm
by BBmolla
In post 2509, Andresvmb wrote:I have the game like this right now:

Town
{Nero Cain [Vanilla Town], MiniMegabyte/Mathblade [Town Role Watcher]}
Lean Town
{CheekyTeeky/Not_Mafia, Gamma Emerald, Momrangal}
Slight Lean Town
{Binatog13, Vaxkiller, BBMolla, Titus, chkflip}
Neutral
{plusJOYED, Hayker, quiet}
Slight Lean Scum
{DGB, NPOM/Bypasser Catcher, Rannygazoo}
Lean Scum
{NorwegianboyEE, Luca Blight}
Scum
{Norfolk Boy1}

BBMolla is my most uncertain Town Read, so take that one with a grain of salt. If Norfolk flips Town, flip with Not_Mafia obviously.
it'll help when I give some reads today

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:32 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2514, Andresvmb wrote:Oh and Norwegian’s suggestion that the wagon could have been pure but not really, and that the NK points to Titus? Could be really what Norwegian thinks is reasonable. I think it’s Scummy.
I’ll need to see more opinions on the matter but you may be right about the NKA thought

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:07 pm
by Binatog13
Intent to hammer on Norfolk

Can you please claim?

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:21 pm
by Rannygazoo
In post 2319, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Who else knows Mathblade here?
I find it hard to believe that this is an earnest question.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12246533

Norwee was posting all through this game with MathBlade and Titus together.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:22 pm
by BBmolla
oh lel nice guilty

also intent to hammer on Norfolkboy please claim

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:24 pm
by BBmolla
In post 2464, chkflip wrote:look out heybbmolla

here comes heyandres
im thoroughly enjoying all of andres posts :)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:25 pm
by Rannygazoo
In post 2519, BBmolla wrote:oh lel nice guilty

also intent to hammer on Norfolkboy please claim
I know you mean that for Not_Mafia, but I’m going to pretend it’s for me finding proof that Norwee was asking leading questions that he knew the answer to.

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:25 pm
by BBmolla
In post 2470, Andresvmb wrote:I’m probably somewhat overreacting to you because you’re in the shortlist of players that really didn’t look good from yesterday. But maybe I’m giving you too much grief and Norway too little.
Quiet looks scummy in general you should read our newbie game together, just sayin

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:41 pm
by Norfolk Boy1
I can't believe that Binatog betrayed me. I'd have taken a bullet for you, bro.

In terms of Not Mafia's claim, it's confirming me as town. As good as Not Mafia is, do you really think that they're that accurate with a 5.26% chance of catching the sole flipped nightkill? Come on.

Obviously I know that Not Mafia is lying, but I don't think that it's scum motivated, I think it's a gambit to catch scum piling on a wagon.

As I see it, Not Mafia's gambit has worked. They've thrown a name out there and within a few hours of dayphase starting, i'm E1. My wagon has scum on it and should be the next pool to eliminate from, particularly when cross examined with the Nero wagon.

I'm not claiming, because this is my chance to protect myself from opportunistic scum.

In terms of who should be looked at today, the obvious elimination is Luca.

Posts 253, 267, 273, 592, 714, 719, 720 and 749 are all scum reading or pushing Mini, despite never actually committing to a vote.

Whilst doing that, Luca scum reads PlusJOYED for low content (posts 470, 708, 711, 746, 756, 1037, 1054, 1395, 1397, 1661 and 1669 if you want to check or ISO. I'm on a phone so links are almost impossible), which rarely defines alignment, it's just easy to go after.

This all gets interrupted to pop Not Mafia at E1, despite making no reference to them previously.

Then, despite confirming Nero as their top townread, Luca joins the wagon, laying the reason for this firmly at Norway's door. Luca then tries to justify the vote with posts 1752 and 1765, all about town and scum behaviour. This is despite advising someone else in post 751 to get out of that exact mindset.

VOTE: Luca

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:47 pm
by Rannygazoo
Why would scum!luca push mini and then kill the slot?