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@DGB @Titus @DotW can you at least indulge me and let Anya action tonight? Pick a pool of people to wagon in and we can discuss other options

Honestly at this point I'd prefer a Kyo wagon over Anya and you even said you thinking Kyo was town was based on that early mason claim that wasn't real.

For right now I'm open to pushing Kyo, VFP, Chaos, Rathe, STD to see where that goes.

VOTE: Kyouko

VOTE: SSMB

Thats a good vote.

If anya is town mson then that confirmed kyo as town. We don't vote kyo today.

Anya isn't a Mason.

Ojh wait nvm lol

VOTE: kyo

If y'all (Anya + Kyo} are masons please just say it now otherwise Kyo claim your role other than neighbors.

In post 2471, cyrus62 wrote:Said the one she claimed was in her pt
Also if you don't buy my role elm me.see what happens.

I believe it. I think everyone believes it, but I see more value in it being confirmed. There's always room for doubt later on when it's not confirmed

In post 2474, osuka wrote:

In post 2231, Dwlee99 wrote:

In post 2229, VFP wrote:

In post 2225, Vaxkiller wrote:Anaya didnt claim ascetic. Are you saying that we have a town roleblocker/rolestopper that hasn't come forward?

If I role blocked Anya as town I wouldn't admit it because it would have been a trash visit.
If I rolestopped Peter I would be even more embarrassed than the above and kept it secret.

So it's plausible.

Like VFP said, I think it is possible. Also possible for there to have been a scum rolestopper that targeted peta.

if there's a babysitter, does it make sense for scum rolestopper to target peta?

How are these two related at all?

I’m VLA for the next two days, though I’ll try to read when I can. Just as a heads up.

I can do ssbm. Still prefer anya but if that won't happen...

VOTE: ssbm

In post 2481, osuka wrote:

In post 2412, cyrus62 wrote:ok night 1 patapan targeted osuka

?????

didnt you just claim combined vig babysitter? did i miss something? how could you possibly know this?

T3 already addressed this by the time I'm through catchup Q+

In post 2482, osuka wrote:

In post 2419, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Did Peta babysit or did he Vig Osuka?

????????????????????

the guy is COMBINED babysitter vig

learn to read people

I thought combined just meant he was both and was used to separate other modifiers from the roles they apply to. My understanding of combined (which I now know was wrong) was that it might work like "Combined Odd Night Tracker Even Night Follower" where the Odd Night modifier applies only to tracker and even night applies only to follower

In post 2484, osuka wrote:

In post 2421, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:If Osuka was untargetable for some reason, rolestop, ascetic, whatever... would Anya receive no result from Peta? Not sure how that resolves

are you having a stroke?

if i was untargetable, which i'm not, how the fuck could that have anything to do with anya receiving no result? what?

I was being dumb, I think she would have seen nothing rather than no result but am still not really sure if that's the case, so would still like an answer here from anyone who is sure

In post 2494, T3 wrote:Hold up.

So I don't see why babysitter vig would exist because the babysit will just protect from the vig shot. Unless it's to give weird results... to something like a follower or a voyeur. UNVOTE: anya

There is no pt at all, I haven't played with Anya before but it quickly became apparent how she plays. At first I was playing along for fun, but then I realized she might actually be a mason with a different partner. I am VT and thought that I could potentially bait a NK away from the real partner if Anya ever flipped, or could bait it away from Anya if I got more active than her by playing it this way.

This is also why I was concerned if DGB/DotW were claiming Mason specifically, because it seems less likely there would be 2 pairs than one. When Anya fullclaimed I assumed she was fakeclaiming a weak PR that would not draw a kill, and that her mason buddy would clear her at a later stage. I assumed she would pretend to have targeted her mason buddy toNight and her mason buddy could lie and say they received the announcing pm. I was probably going to claim this all tomorrow if she lied about targeting me with announcing and I received no PM.

The only reason I'm claiming all this now is (1) I thought DWLee was the secret partner and if he is asking I know this is not the case, and (2) T3s assessment of the modgames involved in Voyeur/Combined BS Vig makes sense to me

So if ssbm is honest, anya is lying...

truth be told im rather bored at the moment.

In post 2512, Titus wrote:So if ssbm is honest, anya is lying...

If my calculations are right, someone is lying.

In post 2514, VFP wrote:

In post 2512, Titus wrote:So if ssbm is honest, anya is lying...

If my calculations are right, someone is lying.

Please detail your calculations.

In post 2512, Titus wrote:So if ssbm is honest, anya is lying...

I dont see the correlation, sure it's possible but I dont think it makes sense. The claimed roles make sense together and I dont think Anya Cyrus are ever a team here as Cyrus just isn't scum with that claim

In post 2516, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:

In post 2512, Titus wrote:So if ssbm is honest, anya is lying...

I dont see the correlation, sure it's possible but I dont think it makes sense. The claimed roles make sense together and I dont think Anya Cyrus are ever a team here as Cyrus just isn't scum with that claim

You're ssbm...

My comment refers to the neighbor situation.

I still don't follow, are you implying that there really is a neighborhood and the questionable bit is "if ssbm is being honest", or are you just stating the obvious that we both lied about there being a hood?

votecount 2.7

Anya (4) :

DrippingGoofball - Vaxkiller - Rathe - Cyrus62

Rathe (4) :

osuka - Save The Dragons - Dwlee99 - T3

ssbm_Kyouko (3) :

Dragon Of The West - VFP - Titus

Titus (2) :

ChaosOmega - Anya

T3 (1) :

sbm_Kyouko

Not voting (1) :

Andresvmb

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In post 2518, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I still don't follow, are you implying that there really is a neighborhood and the questionable bit is "if ssbm is being honest", or are you just stating the obvious that we both lied about there being a hood?

I'm stating that if you're honest then there is no hood. That means anya lied in her claim.

In post 2515, Titus wrote:

In post 2514, VFP wrote:

In post 2512, Titus wrote:So if ssbm is honest, anya is lying...

If my calculations are right, someone is lying.

Please detail your calculations.

15 players, average 4 scum.
15 - 4 = 11
11 players telling the truth
3 players lying
1 player has no idea what's going on.

There are exactly 3 people lying.
This is where it gets tricky.

I'll group players to help though.

Group A
Me
Titus
DGB
Cyrus
T3

Group B
Dwlee
Anya
Vax
SSBM
Osuka

Group C
Raithe
Dragon
West
Chaos
Andre

There's exactly 1+ scum in A+B
There's exactly 1+ scum in B+C
There's exactly 1+ scum in A+C

If you assume that the top player and second player of each group has 10 posts, times the top and second, which gives 100. There were only 17 players to start though...

So the fact it hits 100 and not 63 makes me believe that there's organised lying happening.

And who is a player that appears in the A+B and B+C groups? SSBM.
Conclusion? SSBM is lying about something, but what?

In post 2510, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:but then I realized she might actually be a mason with a different partner. I am VT

What did I just read

In post 2512, Titus wrote:So if ssbm is honest, anya is lying...

YES SHE IS

I actually believe Kyouko.