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In post 2494, DkKoba wrote:like people want to point towards wisdom being town for pushing woolax but completely forget how he treated kyouko who is now flipped town.

This is your issue?
This is my first game with kyouko. She looked like manipulative scum to me. I didn't want her winning the game. This is how I play, deal with it

Gamma you disappoint me

In post 2498, DkKoba wrote:you made several excuses not to vote woolax until your supposed scumread kyouko hopped on and then you felt the wagon was inevitable and had to hop on for cred to not look scummy as shit for it.

its really that fucking simple.

Yes it really is fucking simple. I don't unvote my scumreads until Im positive im doing the right thing

In post 2479, Truth Innuendos Lies wrote:

@mod, was this VC accurate? Didn’t T3 switch to Woolax?

If you could at least determine if this VC is accurate, that would be super.

~I

i don't understand ur wisdom case.
how was wisdom trying to shift the wagons in the posts u quoted

wisdom if you're town the number 1 thing you can provide now is: thought progression. scum can't fake that shit (easily) and your play thus far has enough chaos that it should be nigh on impossible to fake as scum IMO.

why -> kyouko was scummy
why -> gypyx was the read they were from the aforementioned quoted post
why -> moved onto woolax *after* kyouko voted there
what your thoughts were -> when kyouko voted for woolax
what changed -> wrt imaginality who you marked as town but later dumped into your PoE(this is not something I think cannot happen with a town thought process, so it is NOT a gotcha - but I just want it explained)

I'd also like your progression on sleepykrew + t3 thus far - obvious reason that I am scumreading those 2 as well.

with that VOTE: Wisdom

In post 2495, DkKoba wrote:

In post 1897, DkKoba wrote:

In post 848, Wisdom wrote:I like Imaginality for town I think

I don't think Gypyx is scummy but eh, not objecting either

In post 1154, Wisdom wrote:Woolax and Goat are who I would vote if I moved off Brain

But I won't until the replacement gives me reason to

In post 1388, Wisdom wrote:I think woolax makes sense as a ssbm buddy too
That entrance vote was pretty weak and I dont see why ssbm votes there before reading the game
It does make sense if she used it for distancing though

Im going with {ssbm, imaginality, woolax} so far

yes, wisdom definitely doesnt have any agenda in light of flips yup guys definitely town here 100% yes

Gamma talk to me about how this is scum me in any way

Koba doesnt know me but there is no excuse for you

In post 2500, Wisdom wrote:

In post 2494, DkKoba wrote:like people want to point towards wisdom being town for pushing woolax but completely forget how he treated kyouko who is now flipped town.

This is your issue?
This is my first game with kyouko. She looked like manipulative scum to me. I didn't want her winning the game. This is how I play, deal with it

Let's add onto that - where did she look like manipulative scum? From what point did you think this?

In post 2504, Firebringer wrote:i don't understand ur wisdom case.
how was wisdom trying to shift the wagons in the posts u quoted

He was trying every move he could to get a push to happen elsewhere. That’s what it looks like to me.

In post 2505, DkKoba wrote:wisdom if you're town the number 1 thing you can provide now is: thought progression.

My thought progression is in the thread, you just dont know me and cant read it
Youll get to it

In post 2508, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2504, Firebringer wrote:i don't understand ur wisdom case.
how was wisdom trying to shift the wagons in the posts u quoted

He was trying every move he could to get a push to happen elsewhere. That’s what it looks like to me.

i dont see that anywhere there. id have to squint spin around and stand on my head to see it like this

In post 2508, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 2504, Firebringer wrote:i don't understand ur wisdom case.
how was wisdom trying to shift the wagons in the posts u quoted

He was trying every move he could to get a push to happen elsewhere. That’s what it looks like to me.

Dude are you serious
Quote where I tried to do that

This is just conjecture: but a very plausible plan is: flip kyouko -> make an excuse to reeval -> no longer push woolax.


this is not why i'm scumreading wisdom but this is the plausibility argument I have created that makes my scumread logically reasonable.

In post 2509, Wisdom wrote:

In post 2505, DkKoba wrote:wisdom if you're town the number 1 thing you can provide now is: thought progression.

My thought progression is in the thread, you just dont know me and cant read it
Youll get to it

then you should have absolutely no issue with providing the receipts yourself.

Im lazy to do that just because someone dislikes my playstyle
Youll get over it

I have not cited playstyle specific things at all so stop trying to reframe my accusation that way.

In post 1897, DkKoba wrote:

In post 848, Wisdom wrote:I like Imaginality for town I think

I don't think Gypyx is scummy but eh, not objecting either

In post 1154, Wisdom wrote:Woolax and Goat are who I would vote if I moved off Brain

But I won't until the replacement gives me reason to

In post 1388, Wisdom wrote:I think woolax makes sense as a ssbm buddy too
That entrance vote was pretty weak and I dont see why ssbm votes there before reading the game
It does make sense if she used it for distancing though

Im going with {ssbm, imaginality, woolax} so far

yes, wisdom definitely doesnt have any agenda in light of flips yup guys definitely town here 100% yes

First post: giving a bleh TR on Gypyx while trying to not come off as resisting the wagon
Second post: gives SRs on Woolax+Goat but doesn’t act on them because he wanted to push Kyouko
Third post: tries to excuse remaining on kyouko by tying Woolax to kyouko. Also idk if this is just lack of context but the read change on imaginality is concerning

The first post might be the worst one imho

You have not cited but thats what it is

In post 2516, Gamma Emerald wrote:First post: giving a bleh TR on Gypyx while trying to not come off as resisting the wagon
Second post: gives SRs on Woolax+Goat but doesn’t act on them because he wanted to push Kyouko
Third post: tries to excuse remaining on kyouko by tying Woolax to kyouko. Also idk if this is just lack of context but the read change on imaginality is concerning

First post: i didnt understand what was scummy about gypyx and i said as much
Second post: i talked about my other scumreads but obviously i am going to stay on my main scumread
Third post: trying to find ssbm buddies because im pretty sure ssbm is scum

Youve only seen those things from town me a billion times

Why were you apathetic towards the Gypyx wagon then? You should have tried to either give reasons for Gypyx to be town or figure out the “why” behind the wagon if you actually cared.

And I wanna remind you that in the time of those things woolax only had like three votes. The woolax wagon took off when ssbm changed my mind and i voted woolax. So saying that those posts tried to derail woolax is stupid

its almost like people's scumgames attempt to at least look like their town games

If anything you should be arguing i tried to derail gypyx

In post 2519, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why were you apathetic towards the Gypyx wagon then? You should have tried to either give reasons for Gypyx to be town or figure out the “why” behind the wagon if you actually cared.

I did not care? I had no read on gypyx
All that I cared about was liming Braincell/ssbm
Gypyx happened in parallel so I commented on it

As for imaginality
I only mentioned him as a possible ssbm buddy and stated that otherwise I do not have a scumread on him
And today once again I had him in my poe at daystart but then talked sbout his interactions with gypyx and removed him