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i don't think i'm gonna get a confident poe tonight, just too much to think about right now (not that expecting to figure the game out in a few hours is reasonable lol)

when you get a chance let's talk and go over everyone. i'm like 99% confident you're town, hopefully you're there on me, let's try to work together to figure this out

I'm good with getting Datisi Day 1and being happy with that

But it's going to be annoying as fuck if I get voted out after that just because people don't want to bother reading me

How should I be reading you

In post 2501, Roden wrote:I'm good with getting Datisi Day 1and being happy with that

But it's going to be annoying as fuck if I get voted out after that just because people don't want to bother reading me

dont worry about that right now

i get you think it's nk15, what are your other reads looking like right now?

In post 2502, Save The Dragons wrote:How should I be reading you

Correctly would be preferable

In post 2466, Save The Dragons wrote:My reads suck

all of ours do at times, it's ok :)

In post 2500, bloodhail wrote:@skitt - when you get a chance let's talk and go over everyone. i'm like 99% confident you're town, hopefully you're there on me, let's try to work together to figure this out

k
i'm around a bit now

i'm kinda readign the game like

me
std
bloodhail/ari
fire
roden
nk15

and kinda just want to go up from the bottom
i can probably be convinced on roden
not sure as much on fire

but this is where i am rn

you should never ask me to read datisi

i am so bad at reading him >_<

i was trying to get another opinion >.>

but if we think std is town i think the winning coalition + the coalition i was voting for are functionally equivalent so i'm not sure we can read into them super much

like i said i think the point of failure was earlier, when including ari/dats

actually writing this out i'm less sure of fire than i was, hmmm

i guess i should sa

skitter30 wrote:

In post 2500, bloodhail wrote:@skitt - when you get a chance let's talk and go over everyone. i'm like 99% confident you're town, hopefully you're there on me, let's try to work together to figure this out

k
i'm around a bit now

i'm kinda readign the game like

me
std
bloodhail/ari
fire
roden
nk15

and kinda just want to go up from the bottom
i can probably be convinced on roden
not sure as much on fire

but this is where i am rn

my big issue right now is i'm not comfortable with clearing ari

In post 2499, Roden wrote:

In post 2496, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 2493, Roden wrote:

In post 2479, Save The Dragons wrote:i think the kill is weird and i too have a dumb theory about it but it's probably just there to throw us off

i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more

In post 2481, Save The Dragons wrote:more than roden. i dunno maybe it is just ari/datisi and nk15 is a god i really don't know what to think

You literally haven't interacted with me

What makes you think I'm scum

mala

Go on.

In post 29, Datisi wrote:good morning friends!!

v/la tuesdays and wednesdays

- uni is hell on these days. i see the *extremely* short deadline for the coalition however so i will do my best to at least check in on my phone during these days if need be

HEAL: datisi
HEAL: fireisredsir
HEAL: malakittens
HEAL: aristeia

fire reads kinda tonally the same as he did last game. yes i did misread him that game shut up. i have a probably very horrible reason for a townping on malakittens. and i was always gonna heal ari anyway but i do genuinely like the callout in 26 to keep an eye on the deadline.

VOTE: aristeia <3

ari, why do you think fire is mafia?

In post 178, Malakittens wrote:datis is prob town
ari feels town as well.

HEAL: datis
HEAL: ari

idk about skitter,
i'm very bad about reading std
i dont have much exp with fire

why do they townread each other so early that bothers me.

there's also literally no progression on her read of me it doesn't seem real. her other scumreads are kind of meh. she says things like "scum is in {std, ari, datisi} and also things like "ari/datisi aren't s/s" so why not go all in on me? she just...doesn't for no reason. and it's just kind of a garbled mess that looks like datisi kicked her in the pants to post

but i don't really know how to make it clearer to you that i have no idea what to do i feel like you're trying to jump on me for a weak read and i'm like i know it's a weak read but it's all i got.

because ?

awww

you should've just said you clear me and hope i get nightkilled

the paranoia is for later dear

I do think it's cute you think my scum range is this big tho

In post 2503, bloodhail wrote:

In post 2501, Roden wrote:I'm good with getting Datisi Day 1and being happy with that

But it's going to be annoying as fuck if I get voted out after that just because people don't want to bother reading me

dont worry about that right now

i get you think it's nk15, what are your other reads looking like right now?

I don't think it can be anyone besides NK15 or Fire.

I town locked Skitter early and Datisi tried to fight me on it, so I feel confident that she's town.

I don't think Ari is ever paired with Datisi, especially after that EoD where he was genuinely tilted over getting flash elim'd. He was set up to stay in town's good graces all game and had Ari in his pocket early on. Ari was reluctant to believe Datisi was scum, and I don't think she ever hedged or blindly trusted him.

I'm confident you didn't bus and already explained why. Your position in the game is too precarious to survive all the way to ELo and not be NK'd while Datisi was much better set up to solo win ELo.

STD early on was a gut town read, but going into today it's clear how lost he was all game.

In post 2511, bloodhail wrote:my big issue right now is i'm not comfortable with clearing ari

Y tho?

In post 2498, Roden wrote:

In post 2083, Roden wrote:

In post 1887, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1884, Roden wrote:Mena switching from "kill STD" to "kill Rella -> Ari" after acknowledging he's the most likely elim today feels like a spew that would be harmful to his scum partner since I don't think it would be either of them in that scenario,

I dont understand this bit

Basically scum doesn't make those posts and final read lists if they know they're gonna die. Rena/Elephant and Rena/Ari don't work as scum teams at that point either since they don't fit a scum agenda. I wish was more eloquent in getting my thoughts across but I can't think of a better way of explaining it.

It was with Skitter actually but yeah.

i don't really understand how this is you saying that the slots mena was tunneled on were town?? its just saying that mena is town

In post 2514, Aristeia wrote:awww

you should've just said you clear me and hope i get nightkilled

the paranoia is for later dear

i dont see any world where you get nked before me and i wanna have a winning poe

In post 2519, bloodhail wrote:

In post 2514, Aristeia wrote:awww

you should've just said you clear me and hope i get nightkilled

the paranoia is for later dear

i dont see any world where you get nked before me and i wanna have a winning poe

silly because I am townier than you

In post 2517, skitter30 wrote:

In post 2511, bloodhail wrote:my big issue right now is i'm not comfortable with clearing ari

Y tho?

uh my feeling was that even though it felt like her towngame when i was reading initially and i recognize that she helped datisi go over yesterday which is very uncharacteristic of scum-her i get paranoid of the attempted push on mena when i was calling for a 1v1 with datisi

In post 2497, Roden wrote:Can anyone explain why they think I bus Datisi instead of just voting out Elephant and setting up Mena as the next mis-elim?

bc once bloodhail comes in with a scumread on datisi, datisi like almost always dies there? based on gamestate and how people were responding to him, even if he dies first datisi prob flips next, and you would want to be on that early

your trajectory was heading towards irrel until bloodhail showed up, and then you followed him onto datisi

In post 2520, Aristeia wrote:

In post 2519, bloodhail wrote:

In post 2514, Aristeia wrote:awww

you should've just said you clear me and hope i get nightkilled

the paranoia is for later dear

i dont see any world where you get nked before me and i wanna have a winning poe

silly because I am townier than you

In post 1829, Aristeia wrote:if they r t/t i would guess datisi - mala for the scum team

eh maybe nvm